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Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 19:22:16 +0100
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From: Wayne Retter <druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: Outdoor Nationals - 30 Aug + 01 Sep 2002
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Just so you ALL know - I'm currently trying to assess how many teams
would like to play at Nationals, mostly so that I can budget
appropriately, the format is a secondary concern to me right now.



Quick comment on the format though, that will hopefully answer Andy's
questions.

UKU U8 Rules for 2002 say:

1 B     UK Ultimate National Finals 
        1 The format for 2002 Nationals is based on a simple knockout
system. This gives an equal chance for any qualifying teams to win the
tournament. 
        2 In order to calculate which teams qualify for National Finals
every result from each of the four events is counted. Teams will not be
allowed to discard their worst result. 
        3 At least the top 16 teams from the tour ranking list will
qualify for National Finals. 
        4 Nationals format will be based on (at least) a sixteen team
basic knockout format (i.e. no pools), seeded according to the tour
finishing positions. The tournament will try and be expanded to 32 teams
should a venue big enough and demand allow it but this cannot be
guaranteed.

This format was first employed in 2001, after much discussion in all
sorts of places (Britdisc included) about how Nationals could/should be
run.

Regards
Wayne


>hi wayne,
>you say "32 team full knockout" - do you mean Wimbledon style, in that
>there's no pools, just a requirement to win every game? If so, is the
>tournament split into two divisions? 1-16 and 17-32? If that's the case,
>then there's not really enough games per team for the tournament, in my
>opinion. If it's one big division, then surely that would be a complete
>waste of half the tournament - the difference in ability between the top
>team and say the 16th team is big enough. To force the top four or five
>teams to play the bottom four or five is a joke, and a waste of what could
>be an awesome climax to the season.
>
>Just my thoughts.... I'd be interested to know what you think.
>
>Andy

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