From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 23 21:43:32 2002 Received: from sorrel.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@sorrel [137.205.192.54]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g4NKhVI07160 for <suaaz@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 23 May 2002 21:43:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@agave [137.205.192.52]) by sorrel.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g4NKdHjV000059; Thu, 23 May 2002 21:39:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g4NKWlQR028319 for <britdisc-outgoing@agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 23 May 2002 21:32:47 +0100 (BST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0/Submit) id g4NKWl6N028318 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 23 May 2002 21:32:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g4NKWkQR028313 for <britdisc-real@majordomo.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 23 May 2002 21:32:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g4NKWkt17156 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 23 May 2002 21:32:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17AzG8-000O4s-0X for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 23 May 2002 21:32:30 +0100 Message-ID: <$mCdxzAYNT78EwFK@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 19:22:16 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter <druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: Wayne Retter <wayne@fluiddruids.com> Subject: Re: Outdoor Nationals - 30 Aug + 01 Sep 2002 References: <Ddy9pGA6N+68EwY3@phidelta.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <Ddy9pGA6N+68EwY3@phidelta.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S <pjZRgFWDsQK5ViyP$l4rxVrb6a> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just so you ALL know - I'm currently trying to assess how many teams would like to play at Nationals, mostly so that I can budget appropriately, the format is a secondary concern to me right now. Quick comment on the format though, that will hopefully answer Andy's questions. UKU U8 Rules for 2002 say: 1 B UK Ultimate National Finals 1 The format for 2002 Nationals is based on a simple knockout system. This gives an equal chance for any qualifying teams to win the tournament. 2 In order to calculate which teams qualify for National Finals every result from each of the four events is counted. Teams will not be allowed to discard their worst result. 3 At least the top 16 teams from the tour ranking list will qualify for National Finals. 4 Nationals format will be based on (at least) a sixteen team basic knockout format (i.e. no pools), seeded according to the tour finishing positions. The tournament will try and be expanded to 32 teams should a venue big enough and demand allow it but this cannot be guaranteed. This format was first employed in 2001, after much discussion in all sorts of places (Britdisc included) about how Nationals could/should be run. Regards Wayne >hi wayne, >you say "32 team full knockout" - do you mean Wimbledon style, in that >there's no pools, just a requirement to win every game? If so, is the >tournament split into two divisions? 1-16 and 17-32? If that's the case, >then there's not really enough games per team for the tournament, in my >opinion. If it's one big division, then surely that would be a complete >waste of half the tournament - the difference in ability between the top >team and say the 16th team is big enough. To force the top four or five >teams to play the bottom four or five is a joke, and a waste of what could >be an awesome climax to the season. > >Just my thoughts.... I'd be interested to know what you think. > >Andy ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter Layout Dreams layoutdreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk