From: Wigsy [SMTP:mfix6can@fs1.art.man.ac.uk] >Why can we not go a step further and divide ultimate into four division >of eight, with promotion and relegation at the end of each season, with >an open ended division at the bottom, for the teams that are getting >started. > <several other useful observations...> Author: Fraser Macrae <fraser.macrae@kscl.com> >Sounds like a good idea, maybe with divisions/tournaments of 12 so we >don't get tournaments being canceled due teams dropping out or not >being able to make it. Nice idea from Wigsy, but the flaw was spotted by Fraser - Ultimate in the UK is *still* not big enough to make the divisions smaller (despite the apparent need to limit the size of the Tour events!) - maybe in a couple of years it'll be viable to go to four (or more?) divisions of "Ultim8", but not just yet. It also strikes me that we'd see the (currently) undesired (?) split into regions as people play at their nearest events rather than incurring the hassle/expense of going further to play. In the current conditions, I don't see this as beneficial to the level of Ultimate in ths UK.. again though, it strikes me as being OK when the sport has increased in size some more. As the size of Ultimate and the desire to play increases, I suspect that we'll see the increase/evolution of the Tooting/LUS/Leicester/Yorkshire practice/leagues into 'proper' weeknight leagues, and the emphasis of weekend tournaments may change again. Wayne Retter wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk ________________________________________________________________ Notice of Confidentiality This transmission is intended for the named addressee only. It contains information which may be confidential and which may also be privileged. Unless you are the named addressee (or authorised to receive it for the addressee) you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you have received this transmission in error please contact: ~admin@watsonwyatt.co.uk or IT Manager: +44(0)1737 241144 Fax: +44(0)1737 241496 Watson Wyatt Partners is regulated by the Institute of Actuaries in the conduct of UK investment business. _________________________________________________________________