From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 11 17:58:14 2002 Received: from sorrel.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@sorrel [137.205.192.54]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5BGwDe22267 for <suaaz@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:58:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@agave [137.205.192.52]) by sorrel.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5BGmSqL004825; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:48:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5BGbjQR016247 for <britdisc-outgoing@agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:37:45 +0100 (BST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0/Submit) id g5BGbjne016246 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:37:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from sorrel.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@sorrel [137.205.192.54]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5BGbiQR016241 for <britdisc-real@majordomo.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:37:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-srv1.south-nottingham.ac.uk (mail-srv1.south-nottingham.ac.uk [194.83.198.7]) by sorrel.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5BGbgqL003614 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:37:43 +0100 (BST) Received: by MAIL-SRV1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <LXSX923Y>; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:40:16 +0100 Message-ID: <BDF38B1649CDD51195990002B3364E8A729E20@MAIL-SRV1> From: Samuel Rey <reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk> To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Tournament Standards Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:40:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Someone asked for a debate... and few are better at starting arguments than me! so here goes. I can add to comments regarding the 'essentials' by mentioning First Aid. About a central UKUltimate tournament payment scheme. I have heard much in the last two years about profiteering, and that aside, two things worry me. First, quantifying 'fines': Many people felt that First Aid was unavailable to them at a recent Nottingham Event. There were First Aiders at both events (I know 'cos I am one) and the hospital was within sight of the venue (Sammy could have thrown a disc that far). But still people didn't seem to realise this. Event Packs had this listed and it was discussed at the Capts meeting. Would there still have been a 'fine?' Perspective is a difficult thing. Second and possibly more important to the actual event. For the events held here in Nottingham, We had to pay the local council in advance for the hire fee, extras for toilets all nite and pitching the favoured Marquee (thankfully 'cos it was very wet), deposits for this, that and other stuff. Prizes, gifts, parties etc... all need paying for in advance. This also guarantees for the organisers what will/will not be available. We have already started shelling out for the Copa Cabana & the Mixed Nationals events, and lessons learnt already will be very useful, but in 5 years of putting on events, there has only been the Indoor 'Femme Fest' that passed without complaint. That said, there is still scope for mishaps in the organisation whether the TDs have access to the funds or not. Whether they have their teams backing or not. Again this was made plain at our own event(s). Personally, I think that there should be a checklist, it should be posted to everyone interested in submitting a proposal. More importantly it should be checked through at some stage between organisers and the Director of Events. It should also include the provision for First Aid (a H&S must), facilities, grounds and space. In fact, I would recommend that UKUltimate compose a complete guide to hosting a UKU event thereby setting a standard which everyone can adhere to and appreciate. Event organisation is a learning process, and these discussions help that learning process. Nuff Sed Sam Sam 914 6254 reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk