From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 14 14:36:53 1997 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id OAA06248; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:18:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from dns0.curved-logic.com by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk with SMTP id OAA06178; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:18:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from pc15.curved-logic.com by dns0.curved-logic.com id aa04933; 14 May 97 14:20 GMT Received: by pc15.curved-logic.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC6070.4B8BFB80@pc15.curved-logic.com>; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:08:27 +0100 Message-ID: <01BC6070.4B8BFB80@pc15.curved-logic.com> From: Kevin Lowe <kevin.lowe@curved-logic.com> To: "'Britdisc'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Sports Council. Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 14:08:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Do we really want "recognition" from these stodgy old farts? Unfortunately, yes we do. In the last couple of years, we could have applied for (and probably got) National Lottery funding for 3 full time youth developers for Ultimate. It would have meant the BUF could employ people to start up junior teams in specific areas. We'd have met the criteria set by the board (community based, co-ed, etc.) and been able to employ players to really promote the sport at a junior level (It would be an ideal job for anyone having just done a PGCE but wanting a year out before starting teaching). the funding could have been for five years. Why did this idea not get off the ground? You can't apply for National Lottery funding if you're not recognised by the Sport's Council. End of story. I'm a youth group leader in an 'alternative' youth organisation. Because it's recognised by the Department of Education as an educational charity, we can apply for funding. There are many leaders that do not agree with the lottery, but if we don't apply for it, it will go to the 'undeserving causes' that they are complaining about. As a result, we got 66,000 pounds do develop peer led education in Brighton, 150,000 to buy and do up a camping barn, etc. The money is there, but if we can't even get in through the front door, we haven't a hope of seeing any money. Many organisations cannot exist (well, certainly can't grow) relying solely on money raised internally. Look at how much funding Swedish Ultimate gets from its Government. Think what we could do for the sport in this country if we had a fraction of that money. We have to get recognition! If disc sports are not unique enough, then perhaps Disc golf and Ultimate are. There is the option of applying separately. We should hassle Tony Banks (Minister of Sport) emphasizing the elements of Ultimate that will appeal to him (cheapness, co-educational, spirit of the game, not Win at all costs, onus of fair play on individuals, etc.) He actually stood up in the House of Commons and said some good words about our 'alternative' youth organisation when the Government was ranting on about Combined Cadet Forces in comprehensives (I think the quote in Hansard was "Would not it be better, if we have that debate, to encourage our children to join the Woodcraft Folk, so that they can learn to love their fellow creatures rather than how to shoot them? ") Just my tuppence worth. Kevin. -- | E-mail Kev@Curved-logic.com Phone (+44)1244-382371 | Q. Which is the greater problem in the world today, Ignorance or Apathy? | A. I don't know, and I really don't care!