From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 9 12:02:43 2002 Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g39B2gd27872 for <suaaz@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 12:02:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@agave [137.205.192.52]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g39AvJt00358; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:57:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g39ArVQR007329 for <britdisc-outgoing@agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:53:31 +0100 (BST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0/Submit) id g39ArVPt007328 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:53:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g39ArUQR007323 for <britdisc-real@majordomo.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:53:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail1.birmingham.gov.uk (bccmail.birmingham.gov.uk [80.86.36.103]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g39ArUt29932 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:53:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from birmingham.gov.uk (unverified) by mail1.birmingham.gov.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with SMTP id <T5a26f6afa80a5ac1c909e@mail1.birmingham.gov.uk> for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:45:57 +0100 Received: by birmingham.gov.uk(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.7 (934.1 12-30-1999)) id 80256B96.003B2FA4 ; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:46:28 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: BCC From: "Simon Statham" <Simon_Statham@birmingham.gov.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: <80256B96.003B2E7D.00@birmingham.gov.uk> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:50:18 +0100 Subject: Re: Mixed Teams In Major Tournaments Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Jeez, calm it people. I was challenged to come up with some ideas, so I did, I never said DO IT! I have no predudice about the Mixed Tour, or a Women's Tour (some of my best friends play in Mixed teams!). I would prefer to debate the pros/cons of my other suggestions, or have other people come up with their own on how to get away from potentially having to relegate some teams from the Tour because some venues are bigger than others. My suggestion was to have some form of 2 divisions, and I offered a way of doing that. I only have one small gripe about the Mixed Tour and that's that it has reduced the number of free weekends over the summer for non-competitive tournaments. However, if we had more girls in our squad then we would be entering these tournaments and it would be other teams complaining about it! Don't take this personally, add to the debate rather than just criticise. Si (Slipdisc) james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com on 09/04/2002 11:26:38 To: Simon Statham/Transportation/BCC@BCC cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, BAF_Ultimate@yahoogroups.com Subject: Mixed Teams In Major Tournaments Si, >> Why don't we make people have to choose, at least then >> the teams who represent Britain at Worlds are established Mixed teams rather >> than ones cobbled together in the season before. GB Mixed Teams in Recent Tournaments: WUCC 99 = Blue Arse Flies, Mild Mannered Janitors (the "original" mixed team, Gael Force WFDF 00 = GB ("Largely" made up of Chevron and Blue Arse Flies players) EUCC 01 = Blue Arse Flies, Strange Blue WUCC 02 = Blue Arse Flies, Chevron ... think I'm spotting a trend here All these teams have proved their commitment to Mixed ultimate and it's development over the last few seasons and the squad BAF take to Hawaii will be the strongest BAF Mixed squad yet assembled for a major tournament... Hardly "cobbled" together at the last minute??? The Open Tour provides a perfect training ground for Mixed teams in the build-up to major tournaments and gives us the opportunity to play against quality opposition week in, week out whether at an Open or Mixed event. To marginalise the Mixed Tour by making it a "sideshow" to the Open Tour would only serve to weaken the Mixed teams we send to major tournaments rather than improve them. BAF are committed to providing the opportunity to compete in all (non-junior) variations of the sport (Open, Mixed and Womens) as proved by sending two teams to the vast majority of both the Open & Mixed Tours last season, a large number of indoor tournaments and all of the major womens tournaments. To force players to have to make a decision between Open v Mixed v Womens is only taking the sport backwards... Balti BAF 34 ___________________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. 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