From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 27 11:24:12 2002 Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2RBOAR24403 for <suaaz@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:24:10 GMT Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@agave [137.205.192.52]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2RBMrv11333; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:22:53 GMT Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g2RBK20K025299 for <britdisc-outgoing@agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:20:02 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0/Submit) id g2RBK2H0025298 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:20:02 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g2RBK00K025292 for <britdisc-real@majordomo.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:20:01 GMT Received: from mta3-svc.virgin.net (mta3-svc.virgin.net [62.253.164.43]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2RBK0v11132 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:20:00 GMT Received: from adam ([62.255.48.212]) by mta3-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020327111959.TSCE270.mta3-svc.virgin.net@adam>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:19:59 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c1d580$e127d9e0$d430ff3e@batchelor> From: "Adam Batchelor" <adam.batchelor@virgin.net> To: "Steve Henderson" <HendersonS@Cityphone.co.uk> Cc: "britdisc" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> References: <C13F852FDD93D31195EA00508B7493BB437C47@MAIL> Subject: Re: membership fees and other questions Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:16:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ummm... AGM - yes that was a forum. Discussed on britdisc... Well it was advertised and a site dedicated to it. Were we elected democratically... yes Do you read your e-mails? Adam Batchelor Director UKUA PS Your sums don't work! ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Henderson <HendersonS@Cityphone.co.uk> To: <administrator@ukultimate.freeserve.co.uk> Cc: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:04 AM Subject: membership fees and other questions > To the UK Ultimate Association > > I do not know if these have been asked / answered on Britdisc or anywhere > else, but now that you have collected around twenty thousand pounds in > membership fees, where is this money going? > What benefits am I getting this year as a fully paid-up member compared to > the last eight years? Medical insurance? etc > > Am I correct in that the membership fees are required only for the tour and > the indoor/outdoor nationals - ie seven tournaments. > If there is any medical insurance for members (or any other membership > benefits), is it only for these seven tournaments? > > If the fees are in part to be used for "Promotion of the Game" and to make > events more professional, why was there not a single advert in Bradford for > the National Indoor Championship Finals; no party for the evening; not even > a couple of bits of paper stuck on a wall somewhere to show rosters/results. > > While we are talking professionalism here, is ukultimate.com the official > website for the Association? > If so, why where are there no details about the Tour venues for this year > (...and the indoor finals were shown as being in Leeds) > > > Apologies if I am missing the point here, but if this is an association - > i.e. a body of people with a common purpose - how do the members > needs/wants/requirements get debated/answered/resolved. > You could just say: "Use britdisc" - as that is where everything is debated > and questioned. > But if that is the case, why was something so fundamental as THE FORMATION > OF THE ASSOCIATION and all of the details surrounding this event not > discussed on Britdisc BEFORE the event. > > I am now being told by people who I don't know to pay fees to an association > that I have no visibility into, no control over, and no opportunity to > debate about association goals, or vote for committee members... just to > play a game I have been happily playing for nine years. > What is the deal here? Am I missing something obvious?? > > Thanks. (and minor apologies for the almost-rant with little thought or > structure) > > Steve Henderson > (Bonkers) > (Stonkers) > (Geordie Whore) > > This communication contains confidential information which may also be > privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee named > above. If you are not the intended addressee any form of distribution, > copying or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error please notify the sender by e-mail or > by telephone 0191 2366661 and delete it from your system and destroy any > copies of it. >