From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 27 11:20:28 2002 Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2RBKQR23859 for <suaaz@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:20:26 GMT Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@agave [137.205.192.52]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2RBBcv10224; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:11:38 GMT Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g2RB5r0K025229 for <britdisc-outgoing@agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:05:53 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0/Submit) id g2RB5rk4025228 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:05:53 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g2RB5q0K025223 for <britdisc-real@majordomo.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:05:52 GMT Received: from dispatch1.mail.gxn.net (dispatch1.mail.gxn.net [195.224.255.102]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2RB5qv09705 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:05:52 GMT Received: from [195.224.196.226] (helo=mail.Pointgold) by dispatch1.mail.gxn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 16qBHS-0001C8-00; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:07:50 +0000 Received: by MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <G67G9TKM>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:04:39 -0000 Message-ID: <C13F852FDD93D31195EA00508B7493BB437C47@MAIL> From: Steve Henderson <HendersonS@Cityphone.co.uk> To: "'administrator@ukultimate.freeserve.co.uk'" <administrator@ukultimate.freeserve.co.uk> Cc: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: membership fees and other questions Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:04:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To the UK Ultimate Association I do not know if these have been asked / answered on Britdisc or anywhere else, but now that you have collected around twenty thousand pounds in membership fees, where is this money going? What benefits am I getting this year as a fully paid-up member compared to the last eight years? Medical insurance? etc Am I correct in that the membership fees are required only for the tour and the indoor/outdoor nationals - ie seven tournaments. If there is any medical insurance for members (or any other membership benefits), is it only for these seven tournaments? If the fees are in part to be used for "Promotion of the Game" and to make events more professional, why was there not a single advert in Bradford for the National Indoor Championship Finals; no party for the evening; not even a couple of bits of paper stuck on a wall somewhere to show rosters/results. While we are talking professionalism here, is ukultimate.com the official website for the Association? If so, why where are there no details about the Tour venues for this year (...and the indoor finals were shown as being in Leeds) Apologies if I am missing the point here, but if this is an association - i.e. a body of people with a common purpose - how do the members needs/wants/requirements get debated/answered/resolved. You could just say: "Use britdisc" - as that is where everything is debated and questioned. But if that is the case, why was something so fundamental as THE FORMATION OF THE ASSOCIATION and all of the details surrounding this event not discussed on Britdisc BEFORE the event. I am now being told by people who I don't know to pay fees to an association that I have no visibility into, no control over, and no opportunity to debate about association goals, or vote for committee members... just to play a game I have been happily playing for nine years. What is the deal here? Am I missing something obvious?? Thanks. (and minor apologies for the almost-rant with little thought or structure) Steve Henderson (Bonkers) (Stonkers) (Geordie Whore) This communication contains confidential information which may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee named above. If you are not the intended addressee any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender by e-mail or by telephone 0191 2366661 and delete it from your system and destroy any copies of it.