From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 21 11:28:22 2002 Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2LBSKR11907 for <suaaz@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:28:20 GMT Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@agave [137.205.192.52]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2LBIrn16808; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:18:53 GMT Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g2LBEL0K000626 for <britdisc-outgoing@agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:14:21 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0/Submit) id g2LBEKFx000625 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:14:20 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g2LBEK0K000620 for <britdisc-real@majordomo.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:14:20 GMT Received: from pp.dundee.ac.uk (pp.dundee.ac.uk [134.36.2.60]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2LBEJn16001 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:14:19 GMT Received: from dundee-se.dundee.ac.uk ([134.36.7.203]) by pp.dundee.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 16o0WN-0003cu-00; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:14:15 +0000 Received: from DUNDEE-SE/SpoolDir by dundee-se.dundee.ac.uk (Mercury 1.48); 21 Mar 02 11:14:16 +0 Received: from SpoolDir by DUNDEE-SE (Mercury 1.48); 21 Mar 02 11:13:50 +0 From: "Samuel Lord" <s.t.lord@dundee.ac.uk> Organization: Dundee University To: "Jonathan Palmer" <jonathan.palmer@new.oxford.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:13:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: Shafted CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk In-reply-to: <00c201c1cf63$65928e60$379101a3@new.ox.ac.uk> References: <F13o0cfshO2NSEwiGvT00012d78@hotmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Message-Id: <E16o0WN-0003cu-00@pp.dundee.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello BD, Just a little reply to the subject of the qualification spots. Firstly I find it very hard to judge a region which didn't manage to field two of its stronger teams this year. Last year Fusion finished 4th, this year Mud Culture(aka Far Flung) made it to the semi final earlier in the year down in Leeds. Secondly, of the teams that did make it,STD, made up of different players to the previous 2 mentioned, slipped up at vital stages of matches, losing and finshing well below their expected spot after being knocked out in their cross-over by the team which finished 3rd. Aberdeen narrowly lost to 2 of the top eight by only a point, showing the experience they had gained on the first day, to take the spoon. Allocating qualifying spots on how teams from that region have done previuosly that year would be OK if all the teams entered enough tornaments. Judgeing a team you know nothing about could cause problems. Although I agree it would encourage open teams to play together more. At the end of the day I think it'll be very hard to reduce any regions number of spots before the tourney when in Scotlands case 2 couldn't make it, one underperformed, and the other gained a lot of experience(which they could be denied to use if less spots are allocated next year?). I think a better idea would be to allocate the spots left by teams who qualified but couldn't make it, to the stronger regions, based on the previous years results at finals. Hope your still awake, Sam (STD)