From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 25 14:28:47 1997 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA02098; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 13:57:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from amsta.leeds.ac.uk by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk with ESMTP id NAA02072; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 13:57:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from newton.leeds.amsta (newton.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.36.64]) by amsta.leeds.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA19030 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 13:57:45 +0100 (BST) Received: by newton.leeds.amsta (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA11130; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 13:58:33 +0100 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 13:58:33 +0100 From: amtsjh@amsta.leeds.ac.uk (S J Hill) Message-Id: <199704251258.NAA11130@newton.leeds.amsta> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: WUCC in vancouver X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In predictable reply to Rafi: > Fellow opinionists, and people of the BUF... > Lets not forget that the first C in WUCC stands for club. If certain british > women consider themselves affiliated to clubs outside the UK then good for them. > They should not be held accountable for the present state of British womens > ultimate. A few things that are happening that will help the 'state of British women's ultimate' (in no particular order) - co-ed tourneys - more Open Women Practices (see how many of these there are coming up) eg Practice/Hat Tournament in Leeds on 10/11 May - more women's tourneys like indoor and outdoor nats of last couple of yrs - greater regionalization at student level (yeah - this is not so popular in general - but it will help in this case) Of course Scott has also replied... but I want to say something also!! People who deserve credit for the above in particular: Sue Underwood and Liz Bourne for the stuff relating directly to women, and also Scott for getting on with CoEd tourneys. The main thing would appear to be to attract more women to the game at uni level and KEEP THEM PLAYING. I think the above will help. I'm sure there are other things that can be done. (From my end, I have avoided organising women's tourneys alongside the tour events and nationals because many mixed-club players don't like it.) > Nonetheless I sympathise with Diana Worman's complaint (is it?) that > the BUF is doing FA about the state of women's ultimate. The BUF has after all > taken its most familiar stance in a crisis, sticking its head in the sand. Is that next to the heads of all the Shotgun players who wanted more competition but wouldn't play for anyone else? Our heads are out of the sand on that question and it seems to be working so far. If you have some constructive suggestions on the women's issue please share them with us all. > Good luck to all players at WUCC yeah Si