From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 31 15:02:17 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9VEw7A14927 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:58:07 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9VEvvX14867 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:57:58 GMT Received: from vnet2.trinite.co.uk (vnet2.trinite.co.uk [195.38.64.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9VEvuR26640 for <Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:57:56 GMT Received: from csnethub02.csplc.com ([195.188.91.40]) by vnet2.trinite.co.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VEvta00659 for <Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:57:55 GMT Received: from csnethub01.csplc.com (unverified) by csnethub02.csplc.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id <T7b7b7b0256efa40a02@csnethub02.csplc.com>; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:48:12 +0000 Subject: re: women To: "Rebecca Humphries" <beccahumphries@hotmail.com>, Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:53:52 +0000 Message-ID: <OF93366F6E.17537C54-ON80256AF6.004FD466@csplc.com> X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CSNETHUB01/Servers/CadSchw(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 31/10/2001 14:47:22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed ; Boundary="0__=80256AF600513D0F8f9e8a93df938690918c80256AF600513D0F" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --0__=80256AF600513D0F8f9e8a93df938690918c80256AF600513D0F Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Becca, I think it could be an interesting idea but unfortunately making students co-ed is not possible. Most uni clubs just simply do not have enough women. Last year we had about 7 women in the club. Some more dedicated than others and even that wouldn't ensure they could make it to the tourneys. That was a good year for us. The other years I have played we have not had that many women and that would be even worse. My point is if you make student nationals 2-5 split then a lot of teams would be unable to enter. Sorry but there aren't enough women in student ultimate for it. I would encourage women to play and have tried. We did have a woman on our student team last year and she played as much as any of us and still came 2nd so keep them coming... Jesper "Rebecca Humphries" <beccahumphries@hotmail.com>@warwick.ac.uk on 31/10/2001 14:04:29 Sent by: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk To: maaafy_bird@yahoo.co.uk, Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk cc: Subject: re: women Want some more opinion - I doubt it!! Just a thought, but can't student regionals/nationals etc be a 2-5 split. You don't need to organise a whole new student competition, just change the gender criteria (it's not strictly co-ed so you don't even have to call it that). It's bloody tough being a woman in student frisbee. When I left uni no one wanted us to play in their teams, so a group of chicks organised their own team - Funky Nuns/Women in Black - and spent a year and a half losing every game we played!! Attitudes towards women players has to change at the roots - women will practise, practise, practise if they think it's worth their while. >From: Nicole Roberts >To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >Subject: re: women >Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:34:01 +0000 (GMT) > >Personally, if that's the way that leeds play then I >feel very sorry for Anna. > >If you look at the top four teams in student nationals >last year, 3 of them had a woman playing for them. I >appreciate that one out of fifteen isn't much, but >it's a start. > >A student co-ed tournament is, in my opinion, an >excellent idea, however it's ran (a 5-2 ratio may be >necessary). > >By effectively forcing women on the pitch by playing >co-ed can only improve the playing standard of student >women's ultimate, as if any team actually wants to do >reasonably well then they'll have to use all seven >players, not just players without breasts... > >Anyroad, this is probably a bit of a pointless mail >unless we have some university that's willing to host >co-ed nationals, and a weekend that doesn't clash with >either easter holidays, paganello, open nationals or >those horrid things we call finals... > >Okay, had my tuppence, back to work > >nicole >mohawks > >____________________________________________________________ >Nokia Game is on again. >Go to http://uk.yahoo.com/nokiagame/ and join the new >all media adventure before November 3rd. 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