From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 30 18:12:14 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9UI72F04342 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:07:02 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9UI70X04335 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:07:00 GMT Received: from mps1.leeds.ac.uk (mps1.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.16.8]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9UI6xC20117 for <Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:06:59 GMT Received: from arts-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (arts-01.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.124.2]) by mps1.leeds.ac.uk (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f9UI6xv17226 for <Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:06:59 GMT Received: from LUCS-H22/SpoolDir by arts-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (Mercury 1.48); 30 Oct 01 18:07:01 GMT Received: from SpoolDir by LUCS-H22 (Mercury 1.48); 30 Oct 01 18:06:46 GMT From: "Anna Winter" <eng9aw@ARTS-01.NOVELL.LEEDS.AC.UK> Organization: University of Leeds To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:06:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: re: women Reply-to: eng9aw@leeds.ac.uk Message-ID: <3BDEEC2A.7389.27F295B@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Leanne and all, Encouraging women to stick with the sport during and after university would certainly mean that there was a larger pool of female players in the UK, although it isn't the only way to get more women playing, obviously. I thought about this quite a bit when starting the regional student women's team, the aim of which was to encourage more women of all standards from more universities to play. I thought if women across the region got to know each other better they were more likely to form friendships, join together to form new teams and be more likely to stay playing. It also would provide an opportunity to improve skills without the scrutiny of the lads (we love them, but surely I'm not the only women out there who feels under twice as much pressure with blokes around because I feel like I have something to prove to them as well as having the game to play). If every region had one or two women's teams at least this would guarantee some kind of national student competition for women each year, with enough teams to make it viable. In terms of co-ed student games... (and this may well start a row)... the problem we had playing co-ed as a student team was that the blokes all handled, played homeboy and looked off the women for the most part. I know that that isn't how it should be but I think until the skill gap between male and female players at student level is bridged somewhat it is hard to compete together. They don't throw to us because they don't trust we'll make the catch (this is horribly "them and us", but please look beyond that!), we don't get the disc much and so don't improve, they don't throw to us because we wont make the catch... and so on. A vicious circle. I don't disagree with what Leanne has proposed - the more Ultimate the merrier, but at student level I really think women need something specifically for them to make them feel like there is a real potential for them as players, the opportunity to play and something to play for, because it isn't winning Student Nationals for most of us lasses. Sorry to any graduates who had to suffer my student rant, I'll grow out of it (hopefully). Cheers, Anna. BAPS - Northern Student Women.