From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 12 09:34:56 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9C8UrD11570 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:30:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9C8UpX11562 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:30:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com (tungsten.btinternet.com [194.73.73.81]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9C8UpC12268 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:30:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from [213.120.105.2] (helo=kenlambert) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #6) id 15rxiU-0001tv-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:30:50 +0100 Reply-To: <info@hammerage.com> From: "Ken Lambert" <info@hammerage.com> To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Savage Tournie London Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:24:29 +0100 Message-ID: <NDBBLNELJBBJIOPEGFGJMEBECNAA.info@hammerage.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01C152FF.B1942A20" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <F269H2q6DqaJY4kJSFs0000246a@hotmail.com> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C152FF.B1942A20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Becca has made a very valid point here. When we decided to do this tourney and came up with the concept we dismissed the co-ed option too easily. This was a mistake and as the tournament director I accept responsibility and apologise for. As the tournament is almost full already, it is too late to fix the mistake this year, but I have no problem committing to making the savage 7 co-ed next year and supporting Beccas statement that tournament directors do have a responsibility to the women players in the UK. Ken Lambert -----Original Message----- From: Rebecca Humphries [mailto:beccahumphries@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 4:35 PM To: info@ hammerage.com; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Savage Tournie London Dear Organiser I've been reading about your Savage tournie - which sounds fantastic. A great venue and well organised. However, it's a shame that it is not a co-ed tournie 2-5 split. As a female player, it is really hard to find teams that want to play with you. I've been told that Clapham are entering at least two teams to this tournament and therefore other guys are 'taking this tournament seriously' and therefore don't want women on the team. I could enter a women's team, but paying £20 for three games against such competition would not be that much fun. I've sent this to Britdisc to have a bit of a rant really - women play serious ultimate and it's rude to consider us only worthy of playing on a team when you're not bothered about winning the tournament. Please can tournament directors consider more co-ed regulations? Feel free to abuse me for being a whinging hag and to bugger off to organise a tournament myself. Becca ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C152FF.B1942A20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DVerdana size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D390101208-12102001>Becca has made a very valid point here. When = we decided=20 to do this tourney and came up with the concept we dismissed the co-ed = option=20 too easily. This was a mistake and as the tournament director I accept=20 responsibility and apologise for.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DVerdana size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D390101208-12102001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DVerdana size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D390101208-12102001>As=20 the tournament is almost full already, it is too late to fix the mistake = this=20 year, but I have no problem committing to making the savage 7 co-ed next = year=20 and supporting Beccas statement that tournament directors do have a=20 responsibility to the women players in the UK. </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DVerdana size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D390101208-12102001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DVerdana size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D390101208-12102001>Ken=20 Lambert</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT = face=3DTahoma><FONT=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Rebecca Humphries=20 [mailto:beccahumphries@hotmail.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October = 10,=20 2001 4:35 PM<BR><B>To:</B> info<SPAN class=3D390101208-12102001><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff face=3DVerdana><FONT color=3D#000000=20 face=3DTahoma>@</FONT> </FONT></SPAN>hammerage.com;=20 britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk<BR><B>Subject:</B> Savage Tournie=20 London<BR><BR></FONT></DIV></FONT> <DIV> <DIV> <P>Dear Organiser</P> <P>I've been reading about your Savage tournie - which sounds = fantastic. A=20 great venue and well organised.</P> <P>However, it's a shame that it is not a co-ed tournie 2-5 split. As = a female=20 player, it is really hard to find teams that want to play with you. = I've been=20 told that Clapham are entering at least two teams to this tournament = and=20 therefore other guys are 'taking this tournament seriously' and = therefore=20 don't want women on the team.</P> <P>I could enter a women's team, but paying =A320 for three games = against such=20 competition would not be that much fun. </P> <P>I've sent this to Britdisc to have a bit of a rant really - women = play=20 serious ultimate and it's rude to consider us only worthy of playing = on a team=20 when you're not bothered about winning the tournament. Please can = tournament=20 directors consider more co-ed regulations?</P> <P>Feel free to abuse me for being a whinging hag and to bugger off to = organise a tournament myself.</P> <P>Becca<BR><BR></P><BR><BR><BR> <DIV> </DIV></DIV></DIV><BR clear=3Dall> <HR> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <A=20 = href=3D"http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag_itl_EN.asp">http://explorer.msn.com</= A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C152FF.B1942A20--