From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 11 17:08:46 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9BFn7a11654 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:49:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9BFn5X11643 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:49:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from mxrelay.ptc.com (ptc-gw.ptc.com [12.11.149.5]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9BFn4R13586 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:49:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from int-mail.ptc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mxrelay.ptc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA02413 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:48:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from barnaby ([132.253.112.230]) by int-mail.ptc.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA6409 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:42:43 -0400 Reply-To: <avitali@ptc.com> From: "Adriano Vitali" <avitali@ptc.com> To: "'Britdisc'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Savage Tournie London Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:46:31 +0100 Message-ID: <002501c1526b$e6c6a180$e670fd84@ptcnet.ptc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01C15274.488B0980" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <F269H2q6DqaJY4kJSFs0000246a@hotmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C15274.488B0980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Having followed this discussion I'm somewhat surprised at some of the reactions. Something I'd like to know is, are tournament organisers going to get this kind of grief each time they organise an open tournament? VITO Adriano Vitali PTC Technical Support http://www.ptc.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Rebecca Humphries Sent: 10 October 2001 16:35 To: info@hammerage.com; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Savage Tournie London Dear Organiser I've been reading about your Savage tournie - which sounds fantastic. A great venue and well organised. However, it's a shame that it is not a co-ed tournie 2-5 split. As a female player, it is really hard to find teams that want to play with you. I've been told that Clapham are entering at least two teams to this tournament and therefore other guys are 'taking this tournament seriously' and therefore don't want women on the team. I could enter a women's team, but paying £20 for three games against such competition would not be that much fun. I've sent this to Britdisc to have a bit of a rant really - women play serious ultimate and it's rude to consider us only worthy of playing on a team when you're not bothered about winning the tournament. Please can tournament directors consider more co-ed regulations? Feel free to abuse me for being a whinging hag and to bugger off to organise a tournament myself. Becca ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C15274.488B0980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D531024015-11102001>Having=20 followed this discussion I'm somewhat surprised at some of the = reactions.=20 Something I'd like to know is, are tournament organisers going to get = this kind=20 of grief each time they organise an open = tournament?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D531024015-11102001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>VITO</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <P><FONT size=3D2>Adriano Vitali<BR>PTC Technical Support<BR><A = target=3D_blank=20 href=3D"http://www.ptc.com/">http://www.ptc.com</A></FONT> </P> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> = owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk=20 [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Rebecca=20 Humphries<BR><B>Sent:</B> 10 October 2001 16:35<BR><B>To:</B>=20 info@hammerage.com; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk<BR><B>Subject:</B> = Savage=20 Tournie London<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <P>Dear Organiser</P> <P>I've been reading about your Savage tournie - which sounds = fantastic. A=20 great venue and well organised.</P> <P>However, it's a shame that it is not a co-ed tournie 2-5 split. As = a female=20 player, it is really hard to find teams that want to play with you. = I've been=20 told that Clapham are entering at least two teams to this tournament = and=20 therefore other guys are 'taking this tournament seriously' and = therefore=20 don't want women on the team.</P> <P>I could enter a women's team, but paying =A320 for three games = against such=20 competition would not be that much fun. </P> <P>I've sent this to Britdisc to have a bit of a rant really - women = play=20 serious ultimate and it's rude to consider us only worthy of playing = on a team=20 when you're not bothered about winning the tournament. Please can = tournament=20 directors consider more co-ed regulations?</P> <P>Feel free to abuse me for being a whinging hag and to bugger off to = organise a tournament myself.</P> <P>Becca<BR><BR></P><BR><BR><BR> <DIV> </DIV></DIV></DIV><BR clear=3Dall> <HR> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <A=20 = href=3D"http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag_itl_EN.asp">http://explorer.msn.com</= A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C15274.488B0980--