From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 11 11:55:26 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9BAKAb09817 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:20:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9BAK7X09803 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:20:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f208.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.208]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9BAK6R28966 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:20:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 03:20:00 -0700 Received: from 163.1.103.121 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:19:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [163.1.103.121] From: "Emily J. Lyons" <ejlyons@hotmail.com> To: beccahumphries@hotmail.com, sean.holden@framestore.co.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Savage Tournie London Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 06:19:59 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_6f17_3667_9ba" Message-ID: <F2081FxQFM83UV8wAdd0000095b@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2001 10:20:00.0251 (UTC) FILETIME=[4898D4B0:01C1523E] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_6f17_3667_9ba Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Nah, Becca, it's alright. We talk about this all the time in Oxford and yeah, it seems that people like to play on same sex teams unless they're specifically playing in a co-ed tour event. I have specific thoughts about that but they're not relevant to my point here. That said, my feeling is that when there are tournaments like the savage seven that are clearly meant to be fun...raise a little money, play at a big venue, see how hard you are in december, have a big party on the saturday night, then playing 5-2 is a great idea. It gets more people out there and gives the women a chance to play more than women's indoor nationals and a couple international tournaments during the winter. It doesn't lower the standard as women mark up on women and men on men. Good players that work together make a good team, regardless of gender. It's good to have this kind of stuff on britdisc, thanks for bringing it up...Roger was starting to bore me. ;-) Hi Pies. Emily Bliss/Kupa/Ow! ------------------------------- Emily J. Lyons Dept. of Zoology/WTCEID WTCEID South Parks Rd. Oxford OX1 3FY UNITED KINGDOM (+44.1865) 281542 (office) (+44.1865) 281245 (fax) ejlyons@hotmail.com -------------------------------- >From: "Rebecca Humphries" <beccahumphries@hotmail.com> >To: sean.holden@framestore.co.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >Subject: Re: Savage Tournie London >Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:18:24 +0100 > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------=_NextPart_000_6f17_3667_9ba Content-Type: message/rfc822 >From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu, 11 Oct 2001 02:57:41 -0700 Received: from [137.205.192.30] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBD8EB7EB00CB4004326589CDC01EBDA30; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 02:57:06 -0700 Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@pansy [137.205.192.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9B9owC04073; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:50:58 +0100 (BST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9B9IYg21578 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:18:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9B9IXX21571 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:18:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f101.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.101]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9B9IWC27197 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:18:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 02:18:24 -0700 Received: from 195.171.163.194 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:18:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.171.163.194] From: "Rebecca Humphries" <beccahumphries@hotmail.com> To: sean.holden@framestore.co.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Savage Tournie London Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:18:24 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: <F101AOAkK5LqN33HFnw000008b2@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2001 09:18:24.0617 (UTC) FILETIME=[ADD3D590:01C15235] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>Great argument Sean!!!! The female players in this country are soooooo selfish organising their own tournaments!!!! The Savage tournie is not men's only, it's Open.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The point I was trying to make is Open tournaments make it really hard for women to find teams and compete fairly at a high level. If you want a tournament to have mixed teams I think it is a good idea to specify the split. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If not, fine, have an Open tournament, I totally appreciate why people, including myself, like playing single sex Ultimate. However, maybe a women's division should be offered at these tournaments AND the final should be played on the top field before the Open final.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Savage tournie, because of field and time restrictions was probably not a good example - my apologies.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Nuff said, I'll stop filling your inboxes.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Becca</DIV><BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>From: "Sean Holden" <SEAN.HOLDEN@FRAMESTORE.CO.UK> <DIV></DIV>>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk <DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: Savage Tournie London <DIV></DIV>>Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 17:01:37 +0100 <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Whilst I agree with your sentiments in principal, what I think you are <DIV></DIV>>saying is that you are unhappy that this will be an all mens event. <DIV></DIV>>When <DIV></DIV>>have any men complained about the fact that women organise <DIV></DIV>>tournaments purely for themselves? <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Sean (Druids. The only top 4 team to have a women playing for them) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href='http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag_itl_EN.asp'>http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></html> ------=_NextPart_000_6f17_3667_9ba--