From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 13 14:34:36 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8DDUZ502903 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:30:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8DDUV802858 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:30:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from gateway.domain ([195.92.53.130]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8DDUF229323 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:30:16 +0100 (BST) Received: by GATEWAY with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <SN8D84VJ>; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:35:57 +0100 Message-ID: <C3517E8D620CD411B3FC00C04FA164E91541CD@GATEWAY> From: Jakob Donkersloot <jakob.donkersloot@co-activ.com> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: New Association and the coed tour Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:35:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 1. Teams in the Coed Tour with non-members (ie. those introducing new players) are not very likely to reach the slots which would make them eligible for Worlds & Europeans, making it less of a problem. 2. What about foreign teams (more so Coed Tour) and foreign pick-ups (like random Americans who seem to turn up quite regularly for tournaments). Surely they can't be expected to be members, yet they will want to play whichever tournament is available or most convenient. At the bottom end of the Tour there should be more room for manouevre by teams short of players (especially student teams with a fickle/financially impaired membership -- I'm talking about paying tournament fee and travel expenses, not just membership fee). These teams will want to take anyone they can get, be they foreign pick-up or any non-regular UK player. Could there be some way of paying some fee on top of the tournament fee to play in member-only tournaments, specifically for those non-contending teams who want to get the experience nonetheless ? Hedge (whoever will have me...) -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Harris [mailto:jjwh3@hermes.cam.ac.uk] Sent: 13 September 2001 04:16 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: New Association and the coed tour The proposal for the new association did not make it clear whether non-members would be able to play in the coed tour. It seems to me that a requirement of membership for participation in the coed tour would be problematic, for two reasons. First, one of the stated aims of the coed tour is to introduce new players, especially women, to ultimate; second, if the coed tour becomes members-only there are very few tournaments left on the calendar (and fewer affordable ones!) in which non-members would have the opportunity to play. On the other hand, the coed tour (or nationals at any rate) are used to select teams for major tournaments such as worlds or Europeans, and from that perspective it seems like all members should belong to the players association. Any comments? Jonathan Harris (strange blue)