From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 10 09:19:33 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8A8CmA24229 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:12:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8A8Ci824210 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:12:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.london-1.starlabs.net (mail.london-1.starlabs.net [212.125.75.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f8A8CgN18274 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:12:42 +0100 (BST) X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 13968 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2001 08:11:20 -0000 Received: from mcproxy.mcww.net (HELO mcmail1.mediacomtmb.com) (195.153.204.5) by server-6.tower-4.starlabs.net with SMTP; 10 Sep 2001 08:11:20 -0000 Received: by mcmail1.mediacomtmb.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <RR6147R2>; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:11:56 +0100 Message-ID: <EFF8811EA494D4119C990008C7868674018C7485@MCLONDON> From: David Trovell <David.Trovell@mediacomuk.com> To: "'Roger Thomson'" <Roger.Thomson@oyster.com>, "Britdisc (E-mail)" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: RE: open nationals Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:06:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Good to have you back Roger. I miss the good ol' Britdisc days of piss take and abuse (Colin are you out there?) PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, will somebody respond to Roger with a well thought out, sensible, grown up arguement. I need a laugh on Monday mornings. DT -----Original Message----- From: Roger Thomson [mailto:Roger.Thomson@oyster.com] Sent: 07 September 2001 20:12 To: Britdisc (E-mail) Subject: RE: open nationals At the least all I was asking was whether there was a TV near the pitches and/or any flexibility with the schedule. Nancy? Anyone? Please say there's a stunning bar, with draft Stella, overlooking the pitches, with a 10' by 8' projector screen showing the game. Or some skaggy midlands pub half a mile away with one 12" TV and all the locals already there. Anything will do. I was bringing it up on behalf of other players as much as anything since we're possibly going to be playing Clapham1 vs Clapham2 on Saturday afternoon thanks to the rigged seedings we accepted as punishment for dropping a team at Leeds..... Please Nancy, save us - England will definitely never win without our support, Roger !!!! If you have no sense of humour or don't care about football please DO NOT READ ANY FURTHER unless you're Andy Cotgreave. Please keep any responses strictly intra-combatant and do not send them to Britdisc. !!!! DISCLAIMER: ON NO ACCOUNT SHOULD THE VIEWS IN THIS MAIL BE TAKEN AS REPRESENTATIVE OF CLAPHAM ULTIMATE TEAM, IT'S PLAYERS OR MANAGEMENT (OH SORRY, EXCEPT RV, WHO SAID - "HURT HIM M8, WE MUST SEE THE GAME"). NOR SHOULD THEY BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. UNLESS OF COURSE YOU'RE EXACTLY THE KIND OF INTOLERANT SOD ALL THE BARBED COMMENTS ARE AIMED AT - IN WHICH CASE, err, EAT MY SHORTS! !!!! felixsh from Brighton - you're not still reading are you? Or trying to. How do my shorts taste? !!!! >Er, yeah, but this is the OPEN NATIONALS you're talking about. Er, yeah Mr Sarcastic - open nationals FRISBEE. In case you hadn't noticed a significantly larger number of people get rather more excited about that other bizarre sport just the odd few people play with a round ball. YOU may not care, but I was raising it on behalf of those of us for whom, frankly, it's a religion. Mr Cotgreave meet Mr Perspective: <Mr Cotgreave>Hello Mr Perspective I'm an ultimate frisbee player. <Mr Perspective, rolling about on the floor laughing>What the ***k is that then? >The football result will be the same whether you see the England match or not. Any football fan will tell you categorically that that is not true. It can't be. Don't say that. Please. We know it's not true anyway, Schrodinger would assert that the result will not be the same: England will in fact have won, lost and drawn until we know the result - and I don't want England to lose to a country that's lost it's marbles thanks, not even quantum physically. And since the tone of your response was needlessly and disproportionately, er, inconsiderate and condescending (Kettle Cotgreave meet Pot Thomson): >If you don't have the focus to play Ultimate that weekend maybe you should stay at home. :-) Sorry, I thought you said I won't have TO focus to play Ultimate......will you be marking me if we play then? ;-) right - pub time. now. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Cotgreave [mailto:Andy.Cotgreave@RCP.co.uk] Sent: 06 September 2001 09:53 To: 'Roger Thomson'; Britdisc (E-mail) Subject: RE: open nationals Er, yeah, but this is the OPEN NATIONALS you're talking about. Which is a higher priority for you? Playing hard ultimate, reaching the top of YOUR OWN sport, of watching other people reach the top of theirs? There may be a "not inconsiderable number" of footie fans, but there's also a considerable number of Ultimate fans who would rather sweat it out for their own team on the day, and not have the event they have worked all summer to qualify for hijacked for 90minutes. The football result will be the same whether you see the England match or not. If you don't have the focus to play Ultimate that weekend maybe you should stay at home. :-) One man's view, Andy Chevron -----Original Message----- From: Roger Thomson [mailto:Roger.Thomson@oyster.com] Sent: 6 âåðåñíÿ 2001 ð. 9:39 To: 'Nancy Stebbing'; britdisc Subject: RE: open nationals >There will be on-site food both Saturday and Sunday. But will there be a TV? 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - BUF OPEN NATIONALS Location: Daventry - [Outdoor Ultimate] Sat Oct 06 2001 Germany v Finland 15:00 England v Greece 15:00 Is there anything we can do? A good chunk of the early rounds will be over very quickly, so could the whole day be planned to be over by 3pm? Can we start early? Is there a bar with a big TV by the pitches? For the not inconsiderable number of players who are footie fans this is probably quite an issue as these matches are now the deciders for England's World Cup qualification.... Living in hope, Clapham's Silver Bear -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Stebbing [mailto:nancy.stebbing@tesco.net] Sent: 04 September 2001 12:33 To: britdisc; chris.stokes@iolfree.ie; lukey89@hotmail.com Subject: open nationals Open Nationals costs have been confirmed, so you can start sending money! Cheques to Nancy Stebbing for £135 (which includes BUF tax). Send them to 10 Buckingham Road Brackley Northants NN13 7HH Deadline is September 20, no exceptions. Please include a contact name with both email and snail mail addresses so we can contact you and send maps and thingies. The tournament is open to the top 32 teams in the country, as determined by the Ultim8 Tour results. If you didn't play in the Tour and want to come anyway, send a cheque now which we'll hold, and then allocate any spaces left over to you. In case you missed them the first time, below are location and accomodation details. Maps and directions will follow as soon as we get a decent set. OPEN NATIONALS- OCTOBER 6-7 DAVENTRY SPORTS GROUNDS, DAVENTRY The Open Nationals are confirmed at Daventry for the above dates. Daventry is between Junctions 16-17 of the M1, and about 16 miles north of Banbury (site of Tour 2). More directions, maps, and web resources regarding location will follow. Please be advised- you will need some sort of private transport. As this is a last minute arrangement, the site is NOT near a train station (closest are Banbury and Northampton), and accomodation is off-site. Please accept my apologies- this is the best we (the BUF) can do for now. The tournament is open to the top 32 teams initially. (Chris Hughes is handling the format, so please send any inquiries about it to him.) However, in the event that some of those teams do not attend, the remaining spots will be passed down the rankings until the tournament is filled. It is entirely possible (but maybe not likely) that teams who have not played in the Tour at all could be offered a spot. If you want to come- send a cheque by the deadline and see what happens. (Obviously, cheques will be returned if space is not offered). At this time, it is expected that the BUF AGM will be held on Saturday night. Therefore, there is no official party planned. However, the bar at the hotel accomodation will be open to all players. See below for details. ACCOMMODATION Camping is available for no cost at a local farm, Meadows Farm. The farm is 2 miles from the pitches, but it is not a journey that should be attempted on foot. The camping will be BASIC. This means port-a-loos, two sinks in the garage (that DO have hot water) and that's it. Camping is available both Friday and Saturday nights. If it's not raining, it's a really pleasant site. You ARE permitted to bring cooking supplies/ barbecues, whatever. Meadows Farm is part of a local B&B association. You can check out the location and other info at www.northantsfarmholidays.co.uk <http://www.northantsfarmholidays.co.uk> As well as Meadows Farm, there are other farm B&Bs nearby see the above site for more info. (As well as campers, Meadows Farm will take B&B bookings.) FYI, Drayton Lodge (one of the B&Bs on the web site) is almost directly across the street from the pitches. Staverton Park Conference centre is offering a special room rate for the tournament. It is located one mile from the pitches. Rooms are available for Friday and Saturday nights. Rooms are £50- single or double occupancy. This rate includes full English breakfast, ensuite rooms, fully equiped rooms (tea&coffee, hairdryer, ironing board, radio, TV, etc.) use of the restaurant for dinner (at an additional cost) and use of the leisure club (which has a swimming pool and sauna). The centre also has a bar. And for those of you with more money than sense, Staverton has a golf course; tee times are available. Check out the facilities at www.poolatstavertonpark.co.uk <http://www.poolatstavertonpark.co.uk> Rooms are on a first-come first serve basis. Call 01327 302 000 to book, and ask for the frisbee rate. You'll need a credit card for a deposit. OTHER INFO There will be on-site food both Satruday and Sunday. I am negotiating to keep costs down. Entry deadline is September 20. Any questions? Contact me on this email address or on 01280 701 715. 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