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From: "Cahill,Maria" <Maria.Cahill@uk.gases.boc.com>
To: "'Britdisc'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: Womens Tour
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:11:28 +0100
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I will try to make this a little clearer than I managed at the presentation,
although I'm still not sure about 6th and 7th place, if I have them the
wrong way around someone correct me!!

Women's results

1) Bliss
2) Mavis
3) Janet Hawes
4) Fierce
5) Divalution
6) The Pink Team (Disco Inferno + pick-ups)
7) Angels

Cracking participation, amazing weather and a fantastic tournament. Thanks
to Kev who did a great job.

Maria

PS Right on Milner.... the more gingers the better!! 
> ----------
> From: 	Ziants, Wayne[SMTP:WZiants@spencerstuart.com]
> Sent: 	26 June 2001 4:17 PM
> To: 	'Britdisc'
> Cc: 	'dianaworman@hotmail.com'
> Subject: 	Open/Womens Tour
> 
> Diana wrote:
> > The [women's] final, since nothing was really mentioned of it.... 
> 
> With respect, nothing's been mentioned of anything.  In fact the exiles
> among us could already have pieced together from Hannah's message that
> Bliss
> beat Mavis in the women's final.  I still don't know who played in the
> Open
> final (though I have my suspicions that it could just have easily played
> on
> Clapham Common rather than Southampton...?).  But I did find out that
> Albatross won 6 out of 6, and came....21st, which was nice.  
> 
> Can anyone fill in the blanks, both in the Open and Women's?  
> 
> (And while you're at it, anyone know/care whether there should be an
> apostrophe in "Womens"...always wondered....?)
> 
> Cheers
> Wayne
> Team 42, Germany
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diana Worman [mailto:dianaworman@hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Dienstag, 26. Juni 2001 16:55
> To: hannah.easter@philips.com; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Cc: beccahumphries@hotmail.com
> Subject: Womens Tour
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just to echo thanks to Maria for organising the women's tour at
> Southampton.
> 
> The participation of so many women and teams does an enormous amount to 
> further the development of the women's game at a higher level.
> 
> I have a few points which I'd like to make. These are personal and do not 
> reflect my team, and are not intended in any way as criticism to the 
> tournament director - who I thought put on a fantastic tournament.
> 
> 1 - It was a shame that the women's games were relegated to the furthest 
> pitches. I appreciate there may be scheduling problems, but it doesn't 
> really promote a marganalised area of Ultimate. At the same time I'm sure 
> you could ask why lower ranked teams are almost always consistently on the
> 
> far pitches. It certainly can't be an arguement of standard of pitch
> because
> 
> EVERY team that competes is entitled to the same quality of ground.
> 
> 2 - It was in my view a real shame that the women's final was scheduled to
> 
> start during the men's final. The fact we had to play on far fields was 
> perhaps an unfortunate conflict of scheduling, but facts remain that a)
> very
> 
> few women saw the women's final b) very few other players saw the final - 
> (apart from a very well represented Chevvy).
> 
> 3 - I'm not asking for a sympathy vote with women's ultimate. I'm saying
> we 
> need to promote the sport by raising our profile and this involves 
> encouraging both women's and co-ed games.
> I recently spent a year in Australia where it is standard on the Saturday 
> evening to have a display game of womens and/or co-ed. The standard of 
> support (from ALL players) out there is extremely high, and the game is
> well
> 
> supported and very competitive. People actually sit down with beers to
> watch
> 
> and cheer on! - I don't expect many players at Tour 3 could even name 4 or
> 
> more of the women's teams competing.
> 
> 4 - The development of the Tour is fantastic for open ultimate, but hasn't
> 
> done much for women's as yet, and I think it is crucial that the women's 
> game completes its integration into this event and gets recognition and 
> support from all players, just the same as co-ed and juniors continue to 
> grow. In recent years women players have done a fantastic amount to
> promote 
> the sport - Tara Jewell, Laura Pearce, Mavis organisers, student
> women...the
> 
> list goes on..and if I haven't named you - sorry!!!
> 
> 5 - And my last bit of crapping on - The final, since nothing was really 
> mentioned of it. A hotly contested game between Mavis and Bliss, with some
> 
> players from both teams going to Prague. Some fantastic play, hard
> running, 
> with Bliss narrowly winning. Many thanks to Mavis for a great game.
> 
> Diana
> Bliss
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