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From: mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk (David J.C. MacKay)
To: admrwm@ccg.acu.man.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Re[2]: rules question
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I will try to finish off this pick
question by summarising and filling
out what Rafi said.
The following is taken from
http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/rules.html
NOTE: the UPA
rules differ from the WFDF rules.
I will give both versions. In the UK
we play WFDF.
Picks
A pick is called when a defender is unable to follow the offensive player he/she
is marking. The important issues to get clear are:
* Whether you should carry on playing the disc, if it is in the air.
YES if you don't know that the pick was called *before* the throw [wfdf],
YES always [upa]. [As a rule of thumb, always play out whatever
play is in the air, then have a discussion after.]
* What happens then, if the pass is incomplete / complete to the picking
offensive player / complete to another offensive player.
[wfdf] Once the play is completed you figure out if the pick call was
before or after the throw.
IF it was BEFORE the throw, then play should
have stopped, and the disc should not have been thrown, and the disc
*always* goes back to the thrower, whether or not the pass was
incomplete.
IF the pick call was AFTER the pass was thrown then:
incomplete pass or interecepted pass -> turnover; complete pass -> back
to thrower; UNLESS the pick call was irrelevant to the play (e.g., the pass
went to *another* offensive player in another direction), in which case the
completed pass stands, and play resumes with a check.
[UPA] Any
incomplete pass is a turn-over; complete passes go back to thrower
unless the play was unaffected by the pick.
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Having hopefully ended this thread, I would like to start another
one. Last season, a certain junior player, with the support of
his team, strongly advocated
`view A':
"if a player runs off the field and then back onto the
field, they are ineligible to receive the next pass."
Just to make clear the situation, our player, Jim K.,
ran down the line, taking some steps off the field, then ran
back on the field,
then received the disc, i.e. both points of contact *immediately before*
and *immediately after* the catch were in bounds.
Having read the rules carefully I think that the above play
IS legitimate, and that `view A' above is a myth that needs to be
wiped out.
This issue spoilt the spirit of at least one game last year, and I would
like to see it sorted out before Ultim8 gets going.
See you in Hitchin!
David
Strange Blue
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