From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Apr 7 21:50:16 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f37Kbf020329 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:37:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f37KbeT20322 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:37:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from mta4-svc.virgin.net (mta4-svc.virgin.net [62.253.164.44]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f37Kbd420095 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:37:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.255.12.102]) by mta4-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010407203731.ESXV25065.mta4-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer>; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:37:31 +0100 Message-ID: <001a01c0bfa4$ec31c3c0$660cff3e@oemcomputer> From: "adam batchelor" <adam.batchelor@virgin.net> To: "si" <simon@deerglen.freeserve.co.uk> Cc: "BRITDISC" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> References: <E8E2FD6D7B77D411A768009027E01DB301E191D9@exchange.chelt.ac.uk> <002901c0befe$be1e47c0$1f98893e@si> Subject: Re: Rescheduling of Tour 1 Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:53:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Si and All The restrictions advised would have been practically impossible to enforce or adhere to this weekend as there are so many other events occuring at the venue, each with different regulations (advisory only) needing to be adhered to depending on the surface being played upon (grass, astro turf, clay etc). The weekend of 21/22 has only us booked in (Clifton College were leaving it free as they have heavy committments the following week) and so we will be able to play on the site and effectively adhere to guidelines. Relocating it to another time means effectively cancelling as this problem is liable to get worse not better, and playing some Ultimate with slightly weaker teams admitedly, is better than playing no ultimate. Fatboy PS I do empathise with you as some of our (Druids) best players are unable to make the new date! ----- Original Message ----- From: si <simon@deerglen.freeserve.co.uk> To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 2:04 AM Subject: Re: Rescheduling of Tour 1 > Chris, Adam, Matt & Britdisc > > Is the next available date (21-22 April) going to be available??? I would > think NO would be the answer as its in an exclusion zone. So why are we even > thinking about suggesting the weekend of the 21/22 April??? too cancel it > two days before again, then reschedule in the big gap in the summer would be > ludicrous. > As I understand it these areas of exclusion will increase not decrease!!! > Please let us know how in two weeks we will be able to use the venue?? > Lets get real and reschedule for another date at another venue, as this one > is under threat of not being available for the rest of the season!!! (sorry > Matt and Adam) As are other tournaments!! > Alot of Ultimate players in across the board are going to Rimini and > obviously as no ultimate tourneys were to be played on the 21-22 April have > extended their stay so will now miss (new date) Tour 1. Please reorganise > the tour too either the three remaining events or cancel it altogether ((as > the rugby should have been (Southern shandy drinkers game League is the > Best)). > > Also many people will have lives outside of ultimate (even me), and so have > arranged our hectic non playing lives around the tour and other tourneys > such as Rimini, Brugge, Prague, so moving this (fixed date) tour is going to > create more problems than it solves from mine and other peoples and team > perspectives. > > Can I request an EGM of the BUF committee and representatives for all teams > too discuss this matter and the further implications that foot and mouth may > have on the rest of the year. And not leave this upto just the DoC (sorry > Chris) (at least discuss openly and objectively this problem BUF committee). > > Si.b xxx > Chevy (but my own opinion) > > p.s. Could we also look at excluding RED from every event due to Leicester > being a TB hotspot :-) > p.p.s. All the above is to be regarded as null and void by no humour players > and committee members as written after too many beers ( that's bitter not > lager you shandy drinkers) at £1.34 a pint (only in the north). > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "HUGHES, Chris" <CHughes@chelt.ac.uk> > To: <rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk>; "BritDisc (E-mail)" > <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 3:15 PM > Subject: RE: Rescheduling of Tour 1 > > > > Rob (and I'm sure others) > > > > Later in the year was considered, but was discounted for a number of > reasons > > at this stage - yes there is a number of free weekends later in the year, > > but this is why we are not using them - yet. > > 1. Adam has an opportunity to proceed with two weeks time - we were aware > > that this may clash with people not returning from Rimini in time, however > > it is a lot easier, and less costly to attempt to organise the event > quickly > > while we still have a window of opportunity. > > 2. The reason behind attempting such a rapid turnaround was partially to > do > > with the fact that there is no guarantee that this event will take place > in > > two weekends time, and then we will have to reschedule in the summer. > > 3. Why keep the summer free? - since the F&M crisis is continuing I fully > > expect that we may need some of the later summer weekends to recover other > > tour events. All the other events are on the edge of large tracts of > > farmland, and are equally susceptible as Bristol to being called off and > > postponed, unless of course the government comes up with a more successful > > plan than killing everything in sight with more than 3 legs. > > > > My apologies but unless the F&M crisis is brought to bear, then we are > > likely to face a very unpredictable year. May I suggest that all players > > check the britdisc archives, the buf website, or the TD for each event to > > ensure that play is taking place before you travel. > > > > Chris > > > > DoC > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk [mailto:rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk] > > Sent: 06 April 2001 10:25 > > To: BritDisc (E-mail) > > Subject: Rescheduling of Tour 1 > > > > > > Thanks to Adam, Matt and Chris for keeping us informed and for reacting > > quickly and sensibly regarding arrangements for this weekend. > > > > However, Chevron would like to ask, in humble, non-accusatory tones, why > the > > need to reschedule the event to the 21st/22nd April? Chris rightly places > > importance on scheduling events as far in advance as possible, but this > > rescheduling gives us 2 weeks' notice of one of the key tournaments of the > > year. I'm sure this will affect many teams. Chevron, for example, work and > > train hard as a squad and were well prepared for this weekend, when we > would > > have fielded 15 or 16 players. For 21st/22nd April it looks like we'll > > manage 7 or 8. > > > > There is a danger of devaluing the tournament and, for some teams, > affecting > > their final placing in the Tour. Meanwhile as I look at the BUF Diary, > there > > is a very large August and September-shaped hole. I understand that > > decisions were (rightly) made very quickly yesterday, but was any > > consideration given to rescheduling the event to later in the year? > > > > Rob > > Chevron > > >