From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 29 16:37:22 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2TFYhw15799 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:34:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2TFYdx15766 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:34:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from mta1-svc.virgin.net (mta1-svc.virgin.net [62.253.164.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2TFYcg08797 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:34:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.252.37.38]) by mta1-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010329153424.HFRN267.mta1-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer>; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:34:24 +0100 Message-ID: <001d01c0b868$0c33ba00$2625fc3e@oemcomputer> From: "adam batchelor" <adam.batchelor@virgin.net> To: "Benjamin Crick" <benjamcr@central.susx.ac.uk>, "Stephen Giguere" <SGiguere@bluews.com> Cc: "'britdisc'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> References: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0103282054230.2770-100000@keeler.central.susx.ac.uk> Subject: Re: The flying leap point Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:50:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The only reason a flat back 4 D works is because we do not play with correct depth enzones. They should be at least 1 metre deeper than those at Cheltenham. In Scandawegia they murder this D because of the front to back and back to front enzone cuts! Fatboy TRAVEL AND PLAY REAL INDOORS ----- Original Message ----- From: Benjamin Crick <benjamcr@central.susx.ac.uk> To: Stephen Giguere <SGiguere@bluews.com> Cc: 'britdisc' <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 8:57 PM Subject: Re: The flying leap point > Just to point out that if you are playing a flat 4/ flood defence then > you are stifling open offence and showing rather poor spirit. you are > taking advantage of the smaller space just as the person jumping is. > > Ben Crick > > On > Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Stephen Giguere wrote: > > > Hey britdiscers, > > > > Something that's getting more and more frequently in these > > indoor games is this "play" of running in from a half to a quarter > > of the pitch away from the opposite zone, leaping into the air > > to catch the disc and fly into the end zone for the point. It's > > particularly popular against a flood defence. > > My question is... does anyone realise that this is not only really > > annoying and exhibits rather poor spirit, but is a rather dangerous > > tactic. It's only a matter of time before some clever individual > > sails into the zone and takes out someone on our team. In the > > smaller gymnasiums the wall is only just behind the defender and > > a direct collision from someone at speed in the air into a > > member of the opposing team's defence could result in very serious > > injury. I know one of my team member was clipped in the shoulder > > quite hard during one of these plays on the weekend and I was > > thankful is wasn't one of our women. > > I've played in both the States and Canada and tactics like this > > received rather harsh punishment from the leagues governing > > body and the tour directors as it is considered by the rules to > > be dangerous play. > > The annoying aspect of it aside from the above is the tendency > > for people with bad timing to try it again and again everytime > > catching the disc and THEN jumping into the zone and then > > waste time bickering about it. > > I don't expect anyone to read this email and have a revelation > > and never do it again but it would be nice for next years indoor > > teams to try to get a handle on it before we end up with these > > Michael Jordan points flying in from 6 feet outside the zone a > > good 4 feet in the air clobbering anything it it's path. > > You could say it's a perfectly legal play and if you move through > > someone it's an offensive foul. Ok fine, no point then, that's > > correct but it doesn't change the fact that one of our players might > > end up with a concussion or worse from being sent backwards > > into the wall. > > > > -Steve > > and yes I do realise these points happen accidentally sometimes. > > >