From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 29 11:06:27 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2TA4K109492 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:04:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2TA4Gx09453 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:04:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f278.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.153]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2TA4Ag09048 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:04:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:03:55 -0800 Received: from 165.76.195.166 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:03:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [165.76.195.166] From: "ed shardlow" <edshardlow@hotmail.com> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: The flying leap point Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:03:55 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F278yVGpyOHEe0mYiTk0000f075@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Mar 2001 10:03:55.0573 (UTC) FILETIME=[90A3A650:01C0B837] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Benjamin Crick <benjamcr@central.susx.ac.uk> wrote: >Just to point out that if you are playing a flat 4/ flood defence then >you are stifling open offence and showing rather poor spirit. you are >taking advantage of the smaller space just as the person jumping is. how can you say either is in bad spirit, when they are both in line with the word, and the spirit, of the rules? and surely stifling open offence is desirable for the d team? i enjoy playing against a four-man zone defence, it requires faster reactions and disc skills than outdoors ever does. i can't see what people are complaining about: if it's an effective form of defence it will encourage greater skill and inventiveness from the offence, which has to be a good thing. i'd like, if i may, to draw a comparison with basketball, in which the defensive team crowds into the key, forcing the attackers to either use speed and skill to pass and move inside, or improve their shooting accuracy to score from range. these are in some ways parallel to ways of breaking the zone. thankfully, in ultimate a player jumping in who gets impeded by a defender, but still scores, doesn't then get another chance with a free throw for "drawing the foul". ed groove, japan. and anyone who wants me in the UK this summer. wooohooo! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.