From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 27 09:14:50 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2R8BOI04036 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:11:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2R8BLx03984 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:11:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from pump3.york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2R8BKL21094 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:11:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailer.york.ac.uk (mailer.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.96]) by pump3.york.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f2R8BCq17486 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:11:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:11:12 +0100 (BST) From: Catherine Walker <chw101@york.ac.uk> To: britdisc <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: RE: The flying leap point In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.95L.1010326135750.7989A-100000@mailer.york.ac.uk> Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95L.1010327090824.10352A-100000@mailer.york.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > As for your point, the typical scenario is... > O player sees gap, runs and jumps looking to handler > for the pass, lands in the zone. Point. > If the hole was still there because it was a > big enough gap then good, the handler could have > led the pass into the end zone for the running > player and not the leaping player. > Not really, cos a person can fit through a gap that a disc would be D'd if it went through, and a running person will still take up the same amount of space as a jumping person when going through the zone D. The point is that the disc was caught outside the zone, and as defenders are there to D against the disc, the it follows that they were essentially inthe wrong place cos it is now too late as the O team has caught the disc and as the rules state that it is where the first foot touches the ground that deems whether a catch is in or out then as long as they are in the zone they've got the point. You would have to change the rules to "where the disc was caught" but this would be very difficult to judge due to the speed of the game. I agree that it does hurt when bashed into by other players, and as a non contact sport we do have an awful lot of injuries between us. I haven't reasearched the point particulalry but I would guess that if you compared the number of injuries caused by that play compared to just running around the pitch in normal play, eg sprained ankles when going up against people for a high disc, collisions in general ( I broke my hand cos the guy I was marking collided with someone else and fell back on me and I was out of action for ages), it happens and we all expect it at some point. Nobody is out to be particularly rough on purpose, if we wanted to play a contact sport then we would be playing American football or rugby, but most sports are dangerous and accidents will happen. As a girl (and a rather little one at that) I use being little to my advantage when I can and I've learnt to move out of the way pretty quick when I see someone flying through the air in my direction I think it's fine as a play, no more no less dangerous that anything else and it counters that particular zone. Catherine Frizzly Bears (Germany, but coming home to play good British ultimate soon)