From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 19:38:50 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SJbrK01123 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:37:53 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SJboh01101 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:37:50 GMT Received: from mail11.svr.pol.co.uk (mail11.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.23]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SJbnY19878 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:37:50 GMT Received: from modem-52.finasteride.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.94.180] helo=ben) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14YCPt-0000vB-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:37:41 +0000 Message-ID: <011d01c0a1be$e85f6d00$b45e883e@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net> To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> References: <F157jc0D543TuylJc0x0001174f@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Association Proposal Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:05:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, Thanks for the support and suggestions - keep them coming. Some quick clarifications:- 1. I'm afraid membership will not make the tour/nationals free. However the abolition of tournament tax should represent a saving of around 5 to 10 quid each per year. For your extra money you will get Newsletter, proper website, ISP, Insurance, a vote, better run organisation, etc. Is it worth it? You decide. 2. Ideally student competition would be exempt from the requirement to be members. However if that meant that there was an exodus of students from the big events then we would have a problem (both for particpation and for funding.) Give it a year or two and it won't matter anyway as there will be enough non-students to support it on their own. But we really do need the 'serious' students to join if we're to make it happen at this price this year. 3. Under 16s will not be able to have individual membership. The laws about keeping their details on file are way too scary. Their teachers/youth leaders would be encouraged (and maybe subsidised) to join and they would also continue to have the Association Youth Co-ordinator to look after their interests. Perhaps they could elect the co-ordinator? 4. The Provisional Membership fee is really aimed at foreign guest players and also muppets who don't join in time for the tournament. Novice players trying out the game at an indoor regional aren't going to be charged £10 though we would like them to register so that we can keep in contact. 5. A Web-based version of the newsletter is undoubtedly a good idea. It would provide us with regular content to make our website look fresh. Until such time as Western society becomes truly paperless I think a printed copy is also needed. It would be particularly useful as a publicity tool. It might be possible to charge a lower membership fee to those who elect to receive the newsletter electronically but actually the main cost of the newsletter is in the production not the printing and posting. Not a big issue either way unless you're a tree. 6. In my key recommendations in the 'Getting Things Started' section I neglected to mention the need for a further General Meeting to elect new board members. It would seem sensible to do this before employing the paid staff. Cheers Ben Ben Ravilious Secretary British Ultimate Federation