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From: Peter Connor <p.m.connor@open.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.)
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Jack, please note
1) Chris Hughes is NOT inundated with lots of quality bids for tour
events.
2) He has to find four venues and four TD's to run tournaments at
them each year.
3) He can only use the bids he has.
Are you advocating he adds some kind of ethics test to the
requirements for making a bid?
It seems to me that in the absence of anybody else, the guy who
ran the Sheffield Tour was the cheapest source of what we wanted,
or he would have been undercut by somebody else wanting to roll
around in piles of cash. What he does with the money is of no real
interest to me.
If Chris only has four bids, even for poor venues, he's somewhat
limited in what he can do. If he gets less than four bids, then we're
all screwed. Evidently even at the old low prices, which
supposedly offered plenty of scope for profit, not enough people
were motivated to make bids. Alternatively, maybe there was only
room for profit in a few situations, and the number of bids was
limited by the venues that could be afforded. Increasing the
maximum that can be charged only increases the range of bids
that can be made, as well as offering more motivation to bidders.
As Adam Batchelor and Kev Lowe have both pointed out, the fees
don't have to be £150 a team, you and every one else can put in
bids for tour tournaments which charge less, and hopefully this will
be because you need to do so to undercut the other huge number
of bids.
Either way hopefully all the people who follow this thread will be
motivated to cash in next year - I know its got me thinking.
Pete Connor
(who played Sheffield with a large combined student team which
spread the cost around nicely thank you)
> From: "j_rushton" <j_rushton@kingsbrook.northants.sch.uk>
> Big difference between that and hosting a tour tourny which everyone has to
> go to if they want to qualify for anything (we'd have missed nationals and
> world clubs if we hadn't gone) and then going round the world on the
> profits, and it was a pious skint student who did it.
> I never dissed sheffield 1999, I accept how hard the whole tourny thing is,
> the whole team hosting (well Ben mainly) the Nationals in 1999 was hard
> enough. facilities and showers are all part of the gamble and fun of it. But
> COME ON, I'm allowed to be a little narked and worried in the current
> climate of price hikes and profit making. I'll pay the money, with a big fat
> smile on my face, and enjoy the humour of cold showers and no toilet paper,
> if it buys disks and pitches for orphan frisbee players or even if it funds
> a trip to hawaii or prague for the druids but not if it pays for someones
> year off