From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 20 15:42:51 1997 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id PAA19763; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:12:02 GMT Received: from kestrel.mcg.gla.ac.uk by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk with SMTP id PAA19747; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:11:50 GMT Received: from mcg1.mcg.gla.ac.uk by kestrel.mcg.gla.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA14926; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:01:03 GMT Received: from MCG1/SpoolDir by mcg1.mcg.gla.ac.uk (Mercury 1.21); 20 Mar 97 15:11:49 +1100 Received: from SpoolDir by MCG1 (Mercury 1.21); 20 Mar 97 15:11:47 +1100 From: "David Grayson" <david@mcg.gla.ac.uk> Organization: Multimedia Communications Group To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:11:40 gmt+1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: CALLING ALL STUDENT TEAMS! X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.40) Message-ID: <43243E0B20@mcg1.mcg.gla.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A national student league. As usual there are certain pros and cons to this idea. Lets start with the positive. 1. More student ultimate. 2. Likely to stimulate more new players. We have certainly struggled to get newcomers to travel to tournaments - almost always involving going down the M6 (except Swindon where we got lost on the A1 while being smart but that's another story). They would probably be more willing to give up one day rather than a whole weekend. 3. May produce more student teams as BUSF may publicise the results. 4. Would almost certainly give clubs more credibility within their University/college/poly (are there any of these left? - oops getting political). I know Glasgow can't come to terms with the idea of tournaments rather than a Scottish league. This would give them what they are used to, showing Ultimate to be a sport like any other. But there is of course a downside (more a list of questions, really) 1. The ultimate scene is unique at the moment and based a lot on the tournament scene. How would people feel about travelling for two hours to play a two hour game (which could be over quickly in some mismatch cases) followed by a 2 hour trip back (I know there would be the pub as well but the basic idea remains the same). 2. This would be an extra strain on finances, would this decrease student participation in open tourneys? Not to mention time - the card is already very full for this year - play would increase to weekends and midweek games, there could be a significant effect on the number of degrees got by ultimate players (we already have conclusive proof that a trip to Dublin is the difference between a psychology first and a 2:1). And when do we practice? 3. Weather. What time of year are we talking about. Will this be an indoor or an outdoor league? If, as I'm sure the majority will want, an outdoor league is preferenced then when do we play it? Obviously in Glasgow it will be the rainy season but which one? Will teams be willing to play outdoor matches in winter? Or do we have an outdoor (autumn) and an indoor (winter) league? 4. What happens to the Student Championships. Do these get replaced by the playoffs or are they additional - a cup competition if you like? I'm sure others will come up with more points. I am actually quite receptive to the principle of this - I think it could at least be worth a try but probably requires a fair bit of thought. Dave. Mud Culture. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A man may fight for many things. His country, his principles, his friends. The glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child. But personally, I'd mud wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sack of french porn. - Edmund Blackadder: Duel and Duality. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<