From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 12 10:13:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBCACOq10543 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:12:24 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCACN810524 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:12:23 GMT Received: from mercury.uwe.ac.uk (mercury.uwe.ac.uk [164.11.132.23]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCACMY10869 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:12:22 GMT Received: from stu-1157140.uwe.ac.uk ([164.11.138.202]) by mercury.uwe.ac.uk (2.0.4/SMS 2.0.4-devel) with SMTP id KAA06519; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:12:16 GMT From: "Frisbee, Frisbee" <Frisbee@uwe.ac.uk> To: rjdesai <theraj@supaman.com> Cc: student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Midland's Student Qualifier: GBH Decision In-Reply-To: <003501c06330$75e81d20$730928d5@desai> Message-ID: <SIMEON.10012121045.A@stu-1157140.uwe.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:09:45 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (47-uwe) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A few questions need to be asked here: one being what constitutes as a student? The answer to this can be solved as follows - a student is a person who studies at or is affiliated to an academic institute. For convenience sake you can classify a student as one with an NUS card. Part time students are members of the NUS and therefore constitute as students. There are no shades of gray with this classification and so all students are eligible to play in student tournaments. "not sufficiently 'full time' a student" - this description is (to be quite frank) a load of bollocks. A full time course (such as psychology) could only have as little as 2 hours a week time allocated to study at an institute where as a part time course (such as mechanical engineering) could have as much as 9 hours a week - so which is "sufficiently 'full time'" enough for student ultimate? UWE as a university has over 24 000 students around 10 000 of which are part time. For the last 3 years UWE (ultimate frisbee) have had part time students playing for us as if we didn't we would be openly discriminating against them. Never once have we been asked if we've got any part time students playing for us. This is probably because we have normally played against times with good spirit who care more about enjoying the sport rather than beurocrasy. The South West Student Qualifiers are run with good spirit so it seems rather a shame that other student qualifiers are not run to the same level as the South West. Good luck Raj, Stuart. ---------------------------------------- Frisbee, Frisbee Email: Frisbee@uwe.ac.uk "University of the West of England"