From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 10 21:15:18 1997 Received: from thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk with ESMTP id VAA02049; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 21:15:13 GMT Received: by thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk id VAA10904; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 21:07:01 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk by thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk with ESMTP id VAA10892; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 21:06:44 GMT Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk with SMTP id VAA01348; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 21:06:34 GMT Received: from dreamer.demon.co.uk ([158.152.82.103]) by relay-6.mail.demon.net id aa0601193; 10 Mar 97 19:41 GMT Message-ID: <eau+aBAnHGJzEw$T@dreamer.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:32:55 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Neil Travers <neil@dreamer.demon.co.uk> Subject: Catch-22 In-Reply-To: <199703051001.KAA15084@newton.leeds.amsta> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.00 <9LvMyIrZW1syYThDYB4CQEgY34> Sender: owner-britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm just trying to read 'Catch 22', by Joseph Heller and I thought this bit was worth quoting. Especially for the ex Leeds lads. ======================================================================= 'Sure there's a catch,' Doc Daneeka replied. 'Catch-22. Anyone who wants to get out of combat duty isn't really crazy.' There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's own safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions. Orr would be crazy to fly more missions and sane if he didn't, but if he was sane he had to fly them. If he flew them he was crazy and didn't have to; but if he didn't want to he was sane and had to. Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle. 'Thats some catch, that Catch-22,' he observed. 'It's the best there is,' Doc Daneeka agreed. -- Neil Travers - home <neil@dreamer.demon.co.uk> Fluid Druids - theultimatefrisbeeteam <http://www.dreamer.demon.co.uk/>