From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Jul 1 05:58:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e614vcM19667 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 05:57:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e614vbe19660 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 05:57:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e614vbY20733 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 05:57:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from cloe.demon.co.uk ([194.222.139.162]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 138FLT-000Kc0-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 04:57:36 +0000 Message-ID: <R9vviBAhnXX5Ew0y@cloe.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 05:56:01 +0100 To: "'Britdisc'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> From: David Whitehead <whitehead@cloe.demon.co.uk> Subject: Catch and Nationals MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 U <S$gbUU14q3DXG3oWTriWltCzA4> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk One easy solution to this problem that has not been mentioned is to give Catch points for the place they really earned at Tour 2 by showing up to the tournament. Suppose that instead of simply refusing to play on the given pitches, they had just attended each of their games and walked every point. They would have lost six straight games and would have finished 12th, gaining 130 points for the Tour. With this and their usual top-4 finish at Tour 4, they would finish the Tour in the top-4 where they belong. Don't you think it's a bit harsh to give them zero points when they would get 130 by losing every time? If they hadn't bothered to come to the tournament at all, that would be another story. I think that it would be a complete farce if Catch were not allowed to compete for first place at Nationals. *Everybody* knows they are one of the top four teams, and very few people think they deserve to be effectively disqualified for their actions. Since we are in accord on both of these important points, let's find a way to do the right thing. If I had my choice, I would give them points for Tour 2 equal to those of their lowest finish in another Tour (probably 4th place), so that they could get seeded properly among their true peers. But I'm sure many of you would object to this solution, so I'm suggesting the one above which is more in line with the rules as laid out at the start of the year. Dave Whitehead