From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 30 12:36:00 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5UBZ5O06947 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:35:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5UBZ2e06930 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:35:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5UBZ2Y01595 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:35:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (trogers@rupert.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.221]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA26297 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:35:00 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <395C85E1.DC7D569E@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:34:57 +0100 From: Tim Rogers <trogers@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: The top 8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Isn't the whole top 8 issue is getting out of hand? I realise that there are advantages to being in the top 8: getting beat (so you can improve) by the best teams in the country, and some sense of achievement due to quantifying team improvement. However, being in the top 8 is becoming some kind of status symbol. The fact is that that there is only a minute difference between teams positioned 8 and 9, and that the variance in standard of a given team is pretty high: most teams never field exactly the same set of players for every tour. People generally seem to be opposed to the idea of a nationals where a team can drop out of, or move up into the top 8. Personally, I think it is silly, especially when a team which clearly should be able to win Nationals will not have the opportunity. If people bother to read it, the tourny format that I put forward would allow such a system and would avoid the so called "Pool of Death". Note also that if people really do want to keep top 8 seperate from 9-16, the system works equally well for 8, just with one less game. 5 games in a weekend, as opposed to 6. Usual disclaimers apply. Tim Ro-Sham-Bo