From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jun 25 23:50:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5PMlCH05258 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:47:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5PMlAw05245 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:47:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (scrabble.freeuk.net [212.126.144.6]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5PMlAR24118 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:47:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.126.155.5] (helo=default) by scrabble.freeuk.net with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 136LBD-0000E8-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:47:08 +0100 Message-ID: <002a01bfdef7$4aab6c60$059b7ed4@default> From: "er2de2" <tammo@freeuk.com> To: "BRITDISC" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:29:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFDEFD.241F81C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFDEFD.241F81C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Because some Deep South Mentality players were late for their Sunday = morning game, DSM could at first field only six players. Their opponents = Blue Arse Flies refused to start the game, citing some obscure rule that = allegedly applied to this tournament. This allowed BAF to take five = points off DSM before play eventually started, DSM finally having a = seventh player. Oh yes, BAF did proceed to win the game... Questions: Where is it written that thou shalt have your full contingent of seven = players on the line at the start of a game? And more importantly, WHY is = a rule required?=20 Is it health reasons? For World Clubs there is a minimum squad size of = 12, given the exceptional physical demands on the players during a = six-day tournament. Over-regulation, if you ask me, but at least you can = see the it's-for-your-own-good nanny state reason behind it. Southampton = is a two-day tournament, however. DSM were going to be short of a player = for what, 10 minutes? Half an hour? Even a full game? Shock, horror, = call the ambulance! Also, following the logic of protecting players' = health: Does this mean Iron Man tournaments are henceforth outlawed? And = what happens if a squad of eight loses two players due to injury? Do = they have to forfeit their remaining games? =20 Is this rule required to run the tournament smoothly, to prevent late = starts of games, penalise teams not showing up, etc. ? Not applicable = here, after all DSM were ready to play, on time. It's their problem if = they had to play 6 vs. 7.=20 MOST IMPORTANTLY: What kind of mindset makes Blue Arse Flies refuse to = play an opponent, knowing that this way they can get points for free? = BAF players, I hope you'll be thinking about your decision, and I hope = you'll feel sorry. This was lame and un-spirited, Chris Hughes, where = were you in all this? Yes, maybe you would have won anyway- why didn't = you >play< the game to find out? Comments welcome. Tammo Playing for Chevron Action Flash Speaking for myself P.S. Yes, I know the world doesn't end because of this episode. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFDEFD.241F81C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2722.2800" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Because some Deep South Mentality = players were late=20 for their Sunday morning game, DSM could at first field only six = players.=20 Their opponents Blue Arse Flies refused to start the game, citing some = obscure=20 rule that allegedly applied to this tournament. This allowed = BAF to=20 take five points off DSM before play eventually started, DSM = finally having=20 a seventh player. Oh yes, BAF did proceed to win the = game...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Questions:</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Where is it written that thou shalt = have your full=20 contingent of seven players on the line at the start of a game? And more = importantly, WHY is a rule required? <BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is it health reasons? For World Clubs = there is a=20 minimum squad size of 12, given the exceptional physical demands on the = players=20 during a six-day tournament. Over-regulation, if you ask me, but at = least=20 you can see the it's-for-your-own-good nanny state reason behind it. = Southampton=20 is a two-day tournament, however. DSM were going to be short of a player = for=20 what, 10 minutes? Half an hour? Even a full game? Shock, horror, call = the=20 ambulance! Also, f</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ollowing the logic = of=20 protecting players' health: Does this mean Iron Man tournaments are = henceforth=20 outlawed? And w</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hat happens if a squad = of eight=20 loses two players due to injury? Do they have to forfeit their remaining = games?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is this rule required to run the = tournament=20 smoothly, to prevent late starts of games, penalise teams not showing = up, etc. ?=20 Not applicable here, after all DSM were ready to play, on time. It's = their=20 problem if they had to play 6 vs. 7. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><U><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MOST IMPORTANTLY: What kind of = mindset makes=20 Blue Arse Flies refuse to play an opponent, knowing that this way they = can get=20 points for free? BAF players, I hope you'll be thinking about your = decision, and=20 I hope you'll feel sorry. This was lame and un-spirited, Chris = Hughes,=20 where were you in all this?</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Yes, = maybe you would=20 have won anyway- why didn't you >play< the game to find=20 out?</FONT></U></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Comments welcome.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tammo<BR>Playing for Chevron Action=20 Flash</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Speaking for myself</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. Yes, I know the world doesn't end = because of=20 this episode.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFDEFD.241F81C0--