From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 22 19:31:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5MIT0104447 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:29:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MISww04442 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:28:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MISwY22287 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:28:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from p129-harc2-kirklees2.tch.dtn.ntl.com ([194.168.246.99] helo=default) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 135BZp-00065e-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:19:46 +0100 Message-ID: <002701bfd93f$6b1b9500$63f6a8c2@default> From: "matthew.lowe" <matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com> To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> References: <20000622145311.83810.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Exeter Hat Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:08:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I could list loads of players that have been under 18 in the last 2 years, that at that age could have easily played at the Exeter Hat. Just because there young does not mean they're crap. Ali and Sammy are already some of the countries top players, and they're only 16. Chris Berry of Druids has also played Juniors in the last few years, plus loads of others, would they have been turned away? I can understand if it's a requirement of the venue, but shouldn't we be picking venues available to all if that's the case? If it is the choice of an individual then that is absolutely disgusting. It's just as bad as sexism or racism. Ultimate prides itself on its fairness and equality, and if this player has been turned away just because they're 15 years old, then I think someone ought to be offering an apology. Matt Swamp Donkeys ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Ruff <paulruff@hotmail.com> To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Sent: 22 June 2000 15:53 Subject: Exeter Hat > Dear all, > > Can I just confirm that juniors are not allowed to enter certain > tournaments. > One boy from our school who is training for the junior world championships > this year was turned away from the Exeter Hat tournament last weekend. > I try desperately to get games for our team with no success so it was a > shame that a tournament in our home town was not accessible for this player. > I continue to look for games or invitations to play in other tournaments, as > I really do feel that youngsters are the future for Ultimate. If it is to > continue to grow and be successful they should be given every opportunity to > participate. Junior events are few and far between and asking 15year olds to > travel 200miles is a little unrealistic. Every month I lose one or two to > football or rugby clubs as they get frustrated with not playing competitive > matches. > I'm not really sure what I'm saying, just that if young people are turned > away from events then they may not come back. In order for Ultimate to be > taken seriously then as much opportunity as possible must be given for young > people to play. Obviously young players should be of specific standard > before they can play in adult competitions but as Ultimate is supposedly for > everyone to play and enjoy, can there be a criteria other than age for entry > into such competitions. > > Paul Ruff > (Teacher of PE) St Peters High School, Exeter > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >