From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Mar 5 00:24:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA02376 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:20:42 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA02359 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:20:35 GMT Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA03025 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:20:34 GMT Received: (qmail 1588 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2000 00:20:32 -0000 Received: from userbj60.uk.uudial.com (HELO oemcomputer) (62.188.143.223) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2000 00:20:32 -0000 Message-ID: <00a901bf8639$0933a2a0$df8fbc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Si and/or Jack" <JackAndSi.Hill@ukgateway.net> To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Reduce the size of the Tour events Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:15:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A4_01BF8637.F7BC4FA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01BF8637.F7BC4FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wanted to pick up on Chris' email. He is right you see - most of us do = bugger all to make sure that tournaments happen. If he and/or Wayne = stopped doing them all, then we'd be in trouble. Our requirement that Tour events have so many teams has ended up putting = people off running tournaments. We impose a restriction that the venue = be able to have 8 marked, full size fields. =20 I think this is the vital bit of Chris' email: > This then brings me to point 2; > Tour Format / Organisation; all suggested alterations to the tour seem = to > make two assumptions; that either we are able to maintain the large = size of > the teams at tour events, or that we can reduce the size of the = events, by > splitting different leagues, or divisions - which will require more = TD's - > something we haven't got. Right. So don't split the Tour into bits, simply *reduce the size* of = the tournaments. Effect: 1. Tour Events become easier to run (and venues easier to find). I = suggest that a few more candidate TDs will come out of the woodwork. 2. Lots of teams will need other places to play - more fun tournaments. = Likewise, these can remain at the 16-24 team size. Again I predict that = some extremely keen players will realise that they need to and can do a = few tournaments for themselves - without the risk of the Tour pulling = away all the teams. We should avoid saddling ourselves with another level of "BUF = competition" (a B-Tour has been suggested in the past). Its perfectly = simple to come up with a reaonsably sensible way of providing promotion = and relegation into and out of the Tour using other "unregulated" = tournaments. The BUF needs to encourage all levels of tournament - and provide = assistance to all levels of tournament. I think that this can be done = quite effectively whilst reducing the number of teams that play in the = Tour. I'm trying to stick to making a single point. I find that hard :) Si=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01BF8637.F7BC4FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wanted to pick up on Chris' = email. He is=20 right you see - most of us do bugger all to make sure that tournaments=20 happen. If he and/or Wayne stopped doing them all, then we'd be in = trouble.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Our requirement that Tour events have = so many teams=20 has ended up putting people off running tournaments. We = impose a=20 restriction that the venue be able to have 8 marked, full size=20 fields. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think this is the vital bit of Chris' = email:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> This then brings me to point = 2;<BR>> Tour=20 Format / Organisation; all suggested alterations to the tour seem = to<BR>>=20 make two assumptions; that either we are able to maintain the large size = of<BR>> the teams at tour events, or that we can reduce the size of = the=20 events, by<BR>> splitting different leagues, or divisions - which = will=20 require more TD's -<BR>> something we haven't got.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Right. So don't split the = Tour into=20 bits, simply *reduce the size* of the tournaments.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Effect:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1. Tour Events become easier to run = (and venues=20 easier to find). I suggest that a few more candidate TDs will come = out of=20 the woodwork.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2. Lots of teams will need other places = to play -=20 more fun tournaments. Likewise, these can remain at the 16-24 team = size. Again I predict that some extremely keen players will = realise that=20 they need to and can do a few tournaments for themselves - without the = risk of=20 the Tour pulling away all the teams.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We should avoid saddling ourselves with = another=20 level of "BUF competition" (a B-Tour has been suggested in the = past). Its=20 perfectly simple to come up with a reaonsably sensible way of providing=20 promotion and relegation into and out of the Tour using other = "unregulated"=20 tournaments.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The BUF = needs to encourage=20 all levels of tournament - and provide assistance to all levels of=20 tournament. I think that this can be done quite effectively whilst = reducing the number of teams that play in the Tour.</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm trying to stick to making a single = point. =20 I find that hard :)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Si </DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01BF8637.F7BC4FA0--