From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 18:01:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA13709 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:00:05 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13702 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:00:03 GMT Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (baby.kbw.co.uk [193.133.242.75]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11427 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:00:02 GMT Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1DK1C5JM>; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:59:51 -0000 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B0104AA45@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson <roger.thomson@oyster.co.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: London League 2000 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:59:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id SAA13703 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >UTI perspective: >We'd beat you 15-1 too!! LOL :-) Money where mouth is? Say £5 on this weekend's game or the result of Tour 1? Or all mouth no trousers Trovell? Sorry I should have said an intelligent UTI perspective shouldn't I. Hmmmm. But as that's about as likely as Guy running an anger-management course will one of you boneheads tell us your opinion about playing in a London summer league? cheers, PieBoy -----Original Message----- From: David Trovell [mailto:david.trovell@bmpomd.co.uk] Sent: 01 March 2000 17:45 To: 'Roger Thomson'; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: londonleague@onelist.com Subject: RE: London League 2000 UTI perspective: We'd beat you 15-1 too!! > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Thomson [SMTP:roger.thomson@oyster.co.uk] > Sent: 01 March 2000 13:34 > To: 'Ziants, Wayne'; 'Wayne Retter'; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Cc: londonleague@onelist.com > Subject: RE: London League 2000 > > Wayne Retter wrote: > >At the moment, there are enough ultimate clubs in London to hold a small > >tournament - but it's rare that any of them ever manage to meet up on > >the odd "free" weekend for a planned competitive scrimmage! (Some of the > >results may be predictable, but...) > > I think that's changing as the top teams recognise the value of playing > against teams of a similar ability in a competitive setting. This very > weekend Dough, UTI and maybe London Catch players are playing each other > in > a pre-season warm-up. > > Wayne Ziants wrote: > >Let us hope then that all those Ultimate clubs in London - whether Top 8, > >Womens or Students - are prepared to participate in this year's London > >League. The presently vague plan is to start as soon as (non-floodlit) > >evening games become practical, on one or two evenings a week through the > >summer. One popular idea is to make it a Co-ed competition, but nothing > has > >been settled on yet. > >Top organising bloke Paul Hurt will surely have more to add.... > >If Montreal can have 40 teams in a league, surely London's 8 million can > >raise 8 teams :-) > > One of the problems is that a regular league involves alot of travel and > time. The teams in London are of wildly varying ability and this means > alot > of the league games would involve a mis-match - and for both the stronger > and weaker teams are perceived as a waste by many of the players. The > summer > leagues in Canada and the US are an entirely different proposition - a > large > proportion of them are hat teams, and those that aren't tend to be better > matchups because of the kind of team that enters or because structurally > that is more likely in a larger pool of teams. > > Events like the Regent's Park one-day tournies appeal far more because > playing one or two weaker teams is part of the whole day and all teams get > a > good workout, some close and some not-so-close games and a social > gathering. > > > I can see Doughboy, for example, playing in that kind of event, but can't > necessarily see us committing to play in a League with regular fixtures > and > travel if 75% of the games we would win 15-1. That might be different if > the > format were different and offered more competitive games through peer > pools > and promotion and demotion. A UTI player's perspective would be > interesting > at this point.... > > Cheers ears, > > PieBoy.