From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 10:28:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA06306 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:25:00 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06277 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:24:55 GMT Received: from web122.yahoomail.com (web122.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.57]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA22706 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:49:38 GMT Received: (qmail 9894 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Mar 2000 09:56:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20000301095619.9893.qmail@web122.yahoomail.com> Received: from [194.42.250.68] by web122.yahoomail.com; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 01:56:19 PST Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 01:56:19 -0800 (PST) From: Sarah Eckman <seckman1@yahoo.com> Subject: tour format To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I think the problem with this whole tour thing is that a lot of teams view it as their 'summer league', while for others it is the top competitive event of the sport. Coming from Canada, where the Montreal summer league had at least 40 teams, and Wash DC, where we had even more (80+?), it is understandable why students/new players want to go to the tour. There is not really any other venue for playing in the summer, because yes there are a lot of teams in england, but not enough in each geo area to set up a league. So in the tour, 'student' or not the top 8 teams use it as a chance to play in the summer, to gain more experience and on the other side, the top teams battle it out to qualify for worlds. So what could be some other solutions to creating more playing time for these 'amateur' teams that wouldn't disrupt the elitism of the tour? One tourney format which I have yet to see here is the hat tourney. These are great for several reasons: -they only take one day, so for many the travel or time issue is solved. -anyone can show up and play regardless of if they have a team or not -because players are mixed with people they have not played with/against before, new ideas and skills are passed on -they are about as easy to organize as any outdoor regionals or GB practice, cause everyone goes home after... this would also be a way to involve womens, juniors, or proper co-ed teams (2 women on the pitch at all times!) I'm sure others have ideas on this as well, along side the discussion of the tour, if this issue of not enough summer events is settled, it might resolve the issue of you elite teams playing us students! Enough, i just want to play! Sarah fingers 6, manchester ex- tighty whities, washington, dc ex- xena warrior princess, montreal __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com