From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 11:21:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA13867 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:19:34 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13845 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:19:31 GMT Received: from doorman.bmpddb.com (mailhost.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.70]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15328 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:19:29 GMT Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (unverified) by doorman.bmpddb.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id <Bc182204649ad25ef78@doorman.bmpddb.com> for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:19:17 +0000 Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <C47THX2R>; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:15:39 -0000 Message-ID: <C99A86B5A019D2118F8400805F957BF102B1F2D0@POLARIS> From: David Trovell <david.trovell@bmpomd.co.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: FW: Goaltimate Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:15:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk More more details from Aram. > -----Original Message----- > From: Flores, Aram [SMTP:aflores@lehman.com] > Sent: 11 January 2000 11:12 > To: 'David Trovell' > Subject: RE: Goaltimate > > I just know some details because when I went to my brother wedding last > summer half the guests had just come from the first tourney. > > Apparently some guy (a promoter) put up his own money to organise the > tourney. The logic behind Goaltimate goes something like this: > > 1. 5 a side - with two subs taken without stoppage (like ice hockey) - 5 > players are cheaper than 7. > 2. 5 players assures more "stars" > 3. Goaltimate is more TV friendly as the action is concentrated near the > goal (easier to film). > 4. The UPA, being committee run, is crap at selling its video's > 5. This promoter will end up 'owning' the sport - something like that rich > bugger who owns F1 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Trovell [SMTP:david.trovell@bmpomd.co.uk] > > Sent: 11 January 2000 11:00 > > To: 'Flores, Aram' > > Subject: RE: Goaltimate > > > > Aram, > > Do you know why ESPN bought it? Is it easier to film effectively or > better > > as a spectator sport? Maybe they just had a good saleman or a contact. > > I'm amazed they can get this sport up and running and on TV so quickly > > when > > Ultimate has always struggled. > > You are now the offical expert on Goaltimate!! > > Dave > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Flores, Aram [SMTP:aflores@lehman.com] > > > Sent: 11 January 2000 10:44 > > > To: BritDisc > > > Subject: RE: Goaltimate > > > > > > Very simple really......They pay people! > > > > > > I know for the San Diego tournament last year the organisers paid for > > all > > > competitors to fly to San Diego, hotels, food, beer, and $20,000 in > > prize > > > money. They then sold the footage of the tournament to ESPN. All the > > > players invited are well known Ultimate players. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Matthew Lowe [SMTP:matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com] > > > > Sent: 11 December 1999 10:29 > > > > To: BritDisc > > > > Subject: Re: Goaltimate > > > > > > > > I hope you all don't mind me bothering you with this but I have a > > > question > > > > about Goaltimate. > > > > > > > > I understand that it is very similar to ultimate and the list of > teams > > > > (and > > > > some individuals) below even make it look like a list for an > ultimate > > > > tournament (DOG, Godiva, Sub-Zero and Condors are all ultimate teams > > as > > > > far > > > > as I know). And I have always been under the impresion that > goaltimate > > > was > > > > not that big in comparison to ultimate, this leads to my question > > > > > > > > Why is Goaltimate getting so much press and why are its tournaments > > > being > > > > shown on ESPN (one of the biggest sports channels in the world)? > > > > > > > > I hope someone has an answer for me, > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Wayne Retter <postmaster@phidelta.demon.co.uk> > > > > To: BritDisc <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 8:24 PM > > > > Subject: Goaltimate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that Colin Wagstaff (of UTI fame) has joined the Feral > > > > > Goaltimate squad for a trip to the USA! > > > > > > > > > > It's amazing what some people will for the chance to be on TV! > > > > > > > > > > Wayne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rec.sport.disc, Rick Conner <info@goaltimate.com> writes > > > > > >Here are the teams & rosters for the upcoming Phase II: > Goaltimate > > > > > >Invitational tournament. The tournament will take place at the > > Palm > > > > > >Beach Polo & Country Club, West Palm Beach, Florida, February > 12th > > & > > > > > >13th, 2000. ESPN will be there to cover the tournament. We will > > > also > > > > > >have up to date coverage on our web site > > (http://www.goaltimate.com) > > > > > >over the tournament weekend. More information to come. > > > > > > > > > > > > Phase II: Goaltimate Invitational Tournament > > > > > > TEAMS & ROSTERS > > > > > > > > > > > > West Palm Beach, Florida > > > > > > February 12th & 13th, 2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > WOMEN'S DIVISION > > > > > > > > > > > >San Francisco - Fury San Diego - Arch Rivals > > > > > >Cathy Erickson - Captain Shar Stuht - Captain > > > > > >Dominque Fontenette Wende Pinz > > > > > >Jennifer Donnelly Amy Duggan > > > > > >Andrea Johnson Jennifer Scott > > > > > >Maya Conrad Beth Thomas > > > > > >Amy Jean Little Laura Ingebritsen > > > > > >Stacey Scheomehl Kara Ferguson > > > > > > > > > > > >Portland - Dawls Gainesville - Spinsters > > > > > >Tray C. Satterfield - Captain Kellie Diehl - Captain > > > > > >Deana McMurrer Deanna King > > > > > >Dara Bailey Susan Bridges > > > > > >Sarah Welsh Clea Lauriault > > > > > >Linda Scheffler Marta Puyana > > > > > >Jody Dozono Tanya Lopez > > > > > >Sharleen Kamin Mellissa Warren > > > > > > > > > > > >Seattle - Riot Santa Barbara - Condors > > > > > >Rene' Alexander - Captain Rachel Noble - Captain > > > > > >Abbi Nilssen Margaret Thomas > > > > > >Vida Towne Danielle Zacherl > > > > > >Mary Jorgenson Jill Van Wie > > > > > >Michelle Burley Jamie Peters > > > > > >Kathy Porter Carrie Berlogar > > > > > >Deb Cussen Deganit Shechter > > > > > > > > > > > >Boston - Godiva Atlanta - Sol > > > > > >Shana Cook - Captain Jennifer Christianson - > > > Captain > > > > > >Christine Dunlap Angela Lin > > > > > >Vicky Chow Lisa Kotora > > > > > >Ellen Taggart Eileen Murray > > > > > >Christine Parisi Mary O'Neill > > > > > >Gwyn Tracy Susan Lansdell > > > > > >Molly Goodwin Michelle Chabot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MEN'S DIVISION > > > > > > > > > > > >Wellesley - Founders Santa Barbara - Condors > > > > > >Paul Sackley - Captain Jay Higgins - Captain > > > > > >Scott Hollinger Andy Crews > > > > > >Gary Lippman Greg Husak > > > > > >Stu Downs James Studarus > > > > > >Jordan Haskell Rick Martz > > > > > >Jeremy Seeger Jason Seidler > > > > > >Jim Parinella Mario Viani > > > > > > > > > > > >Minneapolis - Sub-zero Sydney - Australian > > Rebellion > > > > > >Eric Lonsdorf - Captain Piers Truter - > > > Captain > > > > > >Josh Quaas Iain Ferguson > > > > > >Alex Nord Angus Keenan > > > > > >Jon Remucal Duncan Keenan > > > > > >Eric Carr Colin Wagstaff > > > > > >Sam O'Brien Will Mitchell > > > > > >Mike Lawyer Steve Antonopolis > > > > > > > > > > > >Madison - G-Men New York - name > TBA > > > > > >Simon MacNair - Captain Marty Brutvan - > > > Captain > > > > > >Todd Eisenberg Dave Babkow > > > > > >David Markwardt Joe McHugh > > > > > >Brendan Sylvander Eric Olson > > > > > >Charlie Reznikoff Arnold Sanchez > > > > > >Will Henry Walter VanderSchraaf > > > > > >Jeff Hirsch > > > > > > > > > > > >Boston - 21st Century DoG Houston - Hammers > > > > > >Nathan Wicks - Captain Scott Buchanan - Captain > > > > > >Tom Matthews John Gryzwinski > > > > > >Lyn Debevoise Sean McCall > > > > > >Fortunat Mueller Jason Calvi > > > > > >Douglas Moore Steve Quach > > > > > >Brian Cameros Sandy Ganzell > > > > > >Justin Safdie Damian Scott > > > > > > > > > > > >Chicago - name TBA San Diego - Ground Zero > > > > > >Michael Glass - Captain Mike Boisvert - > > > Captain > > > > > >Rich Hollingsworth Steve Ferguson > > > > > >Eric Zaslow Jim Ingabritsen > > > > > >Steve Whitehead Mike Blackard > > > > > >John Conway Greg Pinz > > > > > >Joe Cesario Cliff Smith > > > > > >Irv Gilner John Cione > > > > > > > > > > > >Seattle - Flatball Denver - Double Diamonds > > > > > >Jonathan Gewirtz - Captain Tim Wachuta - Captain > > > > > >Greg Shiring Randy Ricks > > > > > >Chris Page Bob Pease > > > > > >Barney Ahouse Buzz Ellsworth > > > > > >Rick Melner Jim Glynn > > > > > >Darryl Nounnan Curtis Manning > > > > > >Chris Hayden David Remucal > > > > > > > > > > > >Atlanta - Bounty Vancouver - Evil Genius > > > > > >David Goode - Captain Kirk Savage - Captain > > > > > >Brian Cornelison Jeff Cruickshank > > > > > >Nathan Wright Andrew Lugsdin > > > > > >Greg Allpow Evan Wood > > > > > >Adam Smeltzer Mike Grant > > > > > >Ricky McClellen Khai Foo > > > > > >John Hammond Mark Seraglia > > > > > > > > > > > >San Francisco - Bigack Miami - Team Florida > > > > > >Scott Lipscomb - Captain Kevin Bogusky > > > > > >Brian Morris Steve Fowler > > > > > >Idris Nolan Butch Brown > > > > > >Seth Blacher Kristien Shallan > > > > > >Edward Coyne Milan Hooper > > > > > >Jeff Williams Steven Johnson > > > > > >Dennis Warsen Dan DePaul > > > > > > > > > > > > OFFICIALS > > > > > > > > > > > >Donny Wallace Jim Herrick > > > > > >Tom Kennedy Steve Mooney > > > > > >Archie Neilson Al Peterson > > > > > >Dee Carey Dave Danks > > > > > >Dean Seville Trey Paulison > > > > > >Mark Lafoon David Becker > > > > > >Brett Evans Peter Schmalenberger > > > > > >David Ray Bob Pallares > > > > > >Dan Rodick (tentative) plus 7 from Florida area > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > > > >Before you buy. > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Wayne Retter > > > > > at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk > > > > > mobile: 07970-903420 > > > > > at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > > are addressed. 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