From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 26 17:14:08 1997 Received: from thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk with ESMTP id RAA00890; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:14:03 GMT Received: by thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk id RAA19718; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:10:48 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk by thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk with ESMTP id RAA19710; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:10:27 GMT Received: from dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk with ESMTP id RAA00273; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:10:23 GMT Received: from ghondr.mmu.ac.uk by dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk with internet SMTP with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:10:11 +0000 Received: from MMU-HSS-GHONDR/SpoolDir by ghondr.mmu.ac.uk (Mercury 1.21); 26 Feb 97 17:12:09 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by MMU-HSS-GHONDR (Mercury 1.30); 26 Feb 97 17:12:02 +0100 From: Lawrence PAULSON <94853843@mmu.ac.uk> Organization: Manchester Metropolitan University To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:11:53 +0100 Subject: Sense and Sensibility, Pride and Prejudice (and other works by J Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <22D1D755BC6@ghondr.mmu.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All, I'm glad to have sparked a discussion with my tournament report: "It's good to talk!" I have a comment in response to some of the things which I inadvertantly provoked (with some help from Si Hill of course). In my original comment, no implicit critiscism of Catch was intended. As Si alluded to in his later message, there's a different attitude towards Spirit, and rule-calling in Leeds than is prevelant in Manchester, but who's to say which is right? Certainly not me. All I was trying to say was that in the final last weekend (and possibly before but I can't comment because I didn't personally witness anything) the different style of play collided, and produced some inevitable friction (as I saw it). Whether the players involved agree or not is almost irrelevant. I saw it, and I think others did too. Hence, I thought it was worthy of a mention. Also: Si Hill wrote: >I presume then, that Laurence is referring to the fact that we took >the turnovers when the Bears dropped the pull (twice) in the >semi-final. No. I didn't see this semi-final at all (I was probably in the canteen drowning my sorrows in English Breakfast Tea after our pitiful performance against Bradford). Dave Murray wrote: > the only moment of confusion >being that I myself called a foul, whilst in a bit of pain >then withdrew the foul, but when I subbed off no-one seemed to realise >I had withdrawn the foul. ONLY moment of confusion? Are you sure? Maybe I did watch a dfferent final then... Neil Travers wrote (in an obvious attempt to wind me up- the cad!) >Not wishing to get too personal, but Laurence has been known to >misunderstand/overreact to minor discussions at tournaments. (National >Indoors a couple of years ago, 2 Druids discussing something on the >sideline). He's obviously a sensitive fellow. I consider myself quite an outspoken member of the Ultimate community, but you can be 100% sure that I never speak: a) without thinking first b) unless I feel something needs to be said c)sometimes to be provocative If what I witnessed at the National Indoor Finals '95 between the 2 Druids was what Neil calls a 'discussion' then I would hate to get into an argument with one of them (unless I was properly armed). And yes, I am a sensitive fellow and I'm proud of it. This is the reason why I am always careful never to stress that my tournament reports should not be regarded as the whole truth, because I know I can never be anything other than subjective Finally, as I said in my original posting... > However ( I think) they were all friends at the end. And I'm glad to hear they were :) Love and Luck, Lawrence PAULSON. Chair, Fingers 6 (Manchester,UK) Ultimate Frisbee Club. Tel: (0161) 882-0560 Webpage:http://yi.com/home/Fingers6/