From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 26 16:36:16 1997 Received: from thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk with ESMTP id QAA24738; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:36:10 GMT Received: by thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk id QAA18375; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:28:23 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk by thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk with ESMTP id QAA18359; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:27:16 GMT From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Received: from relay2.mail.uk.psi.net by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk with ESMTP id QAA23439; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:27:04 GMT Received: from sys2.london2.uk.psi.net (sys2.london2.uk.psi.net [154.32.110.6]) by relay2.mail.uk.psi.net (8.8.4/) with ESMTP id QAA19359 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:27:04 GMT Received: from rwatson.UUCP by sys2.london2.uk.psi.net (8.8.4/SMI-5.5-UKPSINet) id QAA25906; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:20:41 GMT Received: from cc:Mail by rwatson.watsonwyatt.co.uk id AA857002396 Wed, 26 Feb 97 16:13:16 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 97 16:13:16 Encoding: 1868 Text Message-Id: <9701268570.AA857002396@rwatson.watsonwyatt.co.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Dropped pulls Sender: owner-britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk More recently, the Druids have been playing in Denmark and Sweden, where the indoor rules state that the pull may be dropped without causing a turnover.(As Neil has already mentioned - we brought that rule home with us and applied it to the Newport tournament) As John suggests, you *could* get more problems by doing this - mainly through people deflecting the disc back down the pitch for advantage. To my knowledge, this didn't happen at Newport. It also doesn't appear to happen in Scandinavia (maybe they can be fined for bad spirit?). The objective (especially at Newport) is to prevent those ridiculously fast pulls that you spend most of your limited playing time retrieving from the spectator area, or wasting time by carrying off the injured targets. Most Ultimate players are good natured, and if they do drop the pull without penalty (turnover) will walk the disc to where they dropped it (or the endzone line) rather than push the advantage they've already gained. I trust that this will continue. If it doesn't, we'll end up loosing this friendly rule option. Wayne Retter Fluid Druids ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Dropped pulls Author: j.b.domingue@open.ac.uk (John Domingue) at ~Internet Date: 26/02/97 15:43 Once, many years ago, we played at an indoor tournament in Wolverhampton where dropped pulls were not counted as a turnover. In the first game, the Bears (Wacky i believe) pulled to us and Graeme Duckworth (tells you how long ago it was) macked (?) the disc so hard it landed three quarters of the way up the pitch. Naturally, being a good natured chap, he brought the disc back to our own end-zone line.... So I think if you explicity threw out the dropped pull rule you'd have more problems not less. john