From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 9 18:29:56 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA15416 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:28:17 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15406 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:28:14 GMT Received: from seralph10.essex.ac.uk (seralph10.essex.ac.uk [155.245.240.160]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05128 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:28:07 GMT Received: from [155.245.217.202] (helo=bsv002) by seralph10.essex.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.03 #3) id 11w8IR-0002D6-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 09 Dec 1999 18:28:07 +0000 Reply-To: <sashadall@iname.com> From: "Sasha Dall" <sashadall@iname.com> To: "britdisc (E-mail)" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: FW: Good? press for ultimate... Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:27:53 -0000 Message-ID: <000001bf4273$1d299580$cad9f59b@essex.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Here's something from Forbes Life that was forwarded to me from a friend in the States.. so we're the HiTech/Internet sport are we? Enjoy, Sasha XX -----Original Message----- From: swsides@mailgate.sandia.gov [mailto:swsides@mailgate.sandia.gov]On Behalf Of Scott W. Sides Sent: 09 December 1999 17:34 To: Brett Annaheim; Christine Louy; Dan Zaffuto; Daniel Duffy; Danny Kasbar; Deez Ole; Geoff Burda; Jamie Witkowski; Katey Forth; Kent Carlson; Mickey; Monica Raymond; Paul D. Cathers; Red; Sam Krosney; Sasha Dall; Sean Elliott Subject: Good? press for ultimate... > > Monday, December 13, 1999 > > > > Forbes Life > > > >Sports Disc Drive If you want to connect with the digital crowd over sports, > >put away those videos on how to improve your golf swing. Work on perfecting > >your "huck" and your "scoober." > > > > BY Ann Marsh > > > > ULTIMATE FRISBEE HAS BEEN VERY VERY GOOD to Steve T. Jurvetson. In > > 1995 Jurvetson, then a 28-year-old partner in the Palo Alto venture > > capital firm of Draper Fisher Jurvetson, was wondering whether to fund a > > small e-mail directory outfit called Four11.com. It turned out that > > Jurvetson and two of Four11's founders shared a passion for ultimate > > frisbee, or "disc." > > > > That's what devotees call the game of ultimate frisbee, and these fans > > are a devoted bunch indeed. If you plan to make your fortune in the > > dot.com world but you don't know a scoober from a blade, you'd better > > learn. Ultimate is the high-tech community's version of golf, but with a > > lot more heart-attack potential. > > > > Jurvetson liked Four11's business plan just fine, but more important, > > he liked the style Michael Santullo and Larry Drebes displayed during > > the lunchtime pickup games the three played regularly. It wasn't just > > their skill, it was also their teamwork and the code of honor that count > > for as much as athleticism in the sport's New Agey ethos. Vince Lombardi > > has left the building. > > > > Says Jurvetson, "If someone cheats or constantly criticizes, they may > > not be someone you want to hire." > > > > After a particularly sweaty ultimate frisbee face-off, the Four11 > > founders and the Draper Fisher Jurvetson partners signed paperwork for > > $825,000 in seed funding on the hood of a car. Two years later Yahoo > > acquired Four11. Today DFJ's investment is worth around $345 million in > > Yahoo stock. As they say in discland, that's hot! > > > > Ultimate hasn't quite reached golf's critical mass--yet. It's pretty > > hard to count noses, but supposedly there are at least 100,000 people > > nationwide who play it regularly. In the Bay Area are some of the > > country's busiest ultimate leagues--teams have names like Spastic > > Plastic, Saucy Jack and Feral Cows--but most of Silicon Valley can't > > commit to a regularly scheduled anything. Games tend to get arranged ad > > hoc, say, when everyone finishes inventing the latest Web browser. > > Browse over to www.upa.org for > > > > pickup game listings worldwide. > > > > "Without sounding melodramatic, this is a game that mirrors a lot of > > the values of the Valley," says Peter Nieh, 33, a venture capitalist > > with Weiss, Peck & Greer in San Francisco. Nieh recently invested in > > Clip2.com after a referral from an angel investor he met on the field > > (if you happen to run into him there, just call him "Nee"). "It's > > fast-paced, intense, very dynamic. You never have time to set up. Unlike > > > > > > football, it just goes and goes and goes." > > > > In fact, ultimate frisbee came about as an antidote to the oppressive, > > hierarchical vibes in sports like football. The first game was played in > > 1968 in Maplewood, N.J. Among the inventors: Joel Silver, who went on > > to produce such humongous Hollywood hits as the Die Hard and Lethal > > Weapon series and The Matrix. "I moved in the student council that we > > investigate getting frisbee onto the high school curriculum," recalls > > Silver. Silver and his friends spent the next two years in the high > > school parking lot--the grass field was a later refinement--devising the > > rules. "At the end of my obit, they'll say, 'He also invented ultimate > > frisbee,"' Silver predicts proudly. > > > > Today's game is played on a football-length field with two teams of > > seven players each. Players throw the disc past defenders to a teammate > > who scores by catching it in one of two end-zones at either end of the > > field. There are no "downs" or requirements for yardage gains, as in > > football. The team on offense keeps advancing until the defending team > > can wrest possession of the frisbee by knocking down or intercepting a > > pass. Play continues nonstop. > > > > Players can score by throwing short, crisp passes up the field or by > > heaving long, dramatic "hucks" that are far more difficult to catch > > because of the frisbee's varying flight patterns in changing winds. The > > result is intense sprinting, leaping and volleyball-like "lay outs" for > > the disc. It's taxing, to put it mildly. > > > > Just as important to its partisans is how ultimate departs from the > > underlying spirit of football, which is probably the reigning corporate > > sports metaphor. Unlike football, ultimate is the ideal flat-management > > sport. There are no fixed positions, no highly-specialized roles; > > everyone is a quarterback and everyone is a receiver. There are no men > > in gray flannel shoulder pads on an ultimate field. > > > > The founding nerds also enshrined the spirit of tolerance for spazzes > > and other athletically challenged players. They had felt the sting of > > rejection often enough themselves. Silver recalls, "The jocks were a > > clique. In ultimate, everybody played. It was a nonpolarizing game that > > didn't hold to caste lines." > > > > It's not unusual to attend a pickup game where talented athletes share > > the field with first-timers dropping the disc right and left. Sarah > > Anderson, 33, the new vice president of marketing at Egreetings.com in > > San Francisco, just started playing the sport this past summer. You can > > see her running around Golden Gate Park like a maniac on Saturdays with > > husband Dante Anderson, 37, a former captain of the Canadian national > > ultimate team. > > > > Turnabout is fair play. In October Dante got a job as director of Web > > content at Everdream.com, which gives away free PCs while charging steep > > monthly service fees to technophobes. He went into his Everdream > > interview expecting to talk about his resume. "They said, 'Yeah, yeah, > > but tell me more about frisbee,"' he recalls. > > > > "Ultimate embraces the idea of people being many things instead of > > being a specialized cog in some moneymaking machine," says William > > (Willie) Herndon, a schoolteacher from Venice, Calif. who's been playing > > ultimate frisbee almost as long as Joel Silver has. Herndon recently > > finished his own worshipful documentary on the sport, called Spirit of > > the Game, which gets shown privately in ultimate circles. > > > > Spirit of the Game takes its title from the game's revered code of > > sportsmanship, painstakingly written by the frisbee founding fathers in > > the early 1970s. This is a hallowed document; laugh only if don't give a > > hoot whether or not your startup gets funding. > > > > According to Spirit: "Highly competitive play is encouraged, but > > never at the expense of the bond of mutual respect between players. And > > never with an intention to abuse the agreed-upon rules of the game or > > destroy the pure joy of play." Bill Gates, you are hereby sentenced to > > remedial gym class. > > > > Players resolve foul calls themselves on the field according to > > agreed-upon protocols and, ideally, they acknowledge their own > > transgressions. The sport is set to make its debut at the World Games in > > Japan in 2001. Without referees. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Valley of the Sun Ultimate > >http://www.vots.org > > *********************************************************************** > Robert Levy PHONE: 301-614-6123 > SSAI FAX: 301-614-6307 > NASA/GSFC code 913 EMAIL: levy@climate.gsfc.nasa.gov > Greenbelt, MD 20771 > > Also affiliated with the Institute for Flying Disc Science > *********************************************************************** -- Scott W. Sides Integrated Materials Research Laboratory (Blg. 897) Sandia National Labs 1515 Eubank S.E. 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