From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 29 12:43:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18203 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:40:38 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18130 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:40:31 GMT Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19875 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:40:30 GMT Received: from p151-harc2-kirklees1.tch.dtn.ntl.com ([194.168.245.46] helo=user) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 11sQ13-000756-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:34:49 +0000 Message-ID: <000001bf3a66$fc0f4e80$a69cfea9@user> From: "Matthew Lowe" <matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com> To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> References: <199911291022.KAA04276@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Census! Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:47:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I agree. Jedi had about 150 turn up to their first practice this year, and 50-60 (maybe more) have stayed on. I think numbers where similar at Sheffield as well. Even if there has not been that much growth a census would still help the BUF with deciding if it should change to the BUA. Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: Timothy Rogers <trogers@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk> To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 10:21 AM Subject: Census! > Hello all, > > Ultimate is growing faster than ever before. > > Ro-Sham-Bo has had approximately 100 new people turn up this year, > and between 50 and 60 have continued playing. If one was to > extrapolate these numbers over the established student clubs, and add > all the people from new University teams, British Ultimate could have > grown by between 500 and 1000 people in the last few months. > > The Edinburgh Beginners tournament of 32 teams was hugely > oversubscribed. Assuming 6 beginners per side (v. conservative) that > would mean that there were at least 200 new players at this > tournament alone. Furthermore many of the clubs could have produced > at least one more team. > > Bearing in mind this growth (which may not be linear!), I > think that British Ultimate needs to conduct a census for the > following reasons: > > 1) To accurately count the numbers playing ultimate in this country. > > 2) To see what groups of people are leaving ultimate. > > 3) To establish what teams are forming and breaking up, thereby > reducing the number of people left without a team. > > 4) Establish whether ultimate needs restructuring. Should > we set up leagues with divisions, then play tournaments along lines > of which league one is a part of? Do we class tournaments, as > serious, fun, improvers etc. How does womens only and coed fit in? > > 5) Evaluate what sort of BUF ultimate can afford to support. > > Any thoughts? > > Tim > > RSB > Soup