From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 19:41:02 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12229 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:39:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12221 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:39:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18342 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:39:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-002.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.2]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA03051 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:42:37 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <004f01bef960$fc310440$02a492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" <bravil@webleicester.co.uk> To: "BRITDISC" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: nationals Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:41:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01BEF968.F99EC700" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BEF968.F99EC700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Simon That is 99% utter crap but seeing as your email is 'tongue in cheek' I = shall ignore it. FYI Simon Church is a 'Home Energy Officer' (thats the = 1% truth) so he is obviously able to knock up a few pitches on the sly = !?!=20 At least it was mildy amusing... :-p Ben (Just ordered the Red minibus from the Nationals profits - its made by = Matchbox) -----Original Message----- From: Simon P Barlow <dgcltd@dgcltd.screaming.net> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Cc: Leicester Ultimate Club <red@ultimateweb.co.uk>; HUGHES, Chris = <CHughes@chelt.ac.uk> Date: 07 September 1999 18:43 Subject: nationals =20 =20 Ben & Chris =20 My comments were meant slightly tongue in cheek to put forward the = point that tournament directors/clubs make far too much profit out of a = tourney .And how the price of entry to tournaments has increased = considerably over the past couple of years since the introduction of the = "compulsory tournaments". I feel personally that if / when the UK Ultimate community decide to = form the BUA to take over from the BUF, then when these compulsory = tournaments in the future are put on then all the profits/less = reasonable expenses, should go back to the BUA instead of the present = situation that we have found ourselves in where certain individuals = profit. Before you say BUF TAX let me point out that I feel this rate = needs to be increased. And as to your comment Ben about Victoria park being free!! You told = me that you didn't have to pay for tour 1 as Leicester council = decided/never asked for the money after the event. And Red never gave = anyone any money back!!! (so did you make =A350 for every pitch you = didn't pay for last time). I'm not bothered as these days you don't get anything for free and = if they do it again this time then you can consider yourselves luckier/ = (Richer) !!! Also doesn't one of the Red players work for Leicester council??? = Red tape , Lost invoices and all that !!!! And by the way how many teams did bid for this years nationals!! = apart from "Leicester city council" =20 Si.b now nursing my hands after having my knuckles rapped =20 P.S I know how difficult it is to run Tournaments as I have run many = tennis (week long) tournaments that's why I don't want to run an = ultimate one as I know how many moaning players there are in our = wonderful sport. =20 Ben I now expect pooper scoupers by every pitch !!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BEF968.F99EC700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 = Transitional//EN"> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>Simon</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That is 99% utter crap but seeing as your email is 'tongue in = cheek' I=20 shall ignore it. FYI Simon Church is a 'Home Energy Officer' = (thats the 1%=20 truth) so he is obviously able to knock up a few pitches on the sly !?! = </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3>At least it was mildy amusing...</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3>:-p</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"" size=3D3>Ben</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"" size=3D3>(Just ordered the Red = minibus from the=20 Nationals profits - its made by Matchbox)</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original = Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20 </B>Simon P Barlow <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:dgcltd@dgcltd.screaming.net">dgcltd@dgcltd.screaming.net</= A>><BR><B>To:=20 </B><A=20 = href=3D"mailto:britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk">britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk</A>= =20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk">britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk</A>= ><BR><B>Cc:=20 </B>Leicester Ultimate Club <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:red@ultimateweb.co.uk">red@ultimateweb.co.uk</A>>; = HUGHES,=20 Chris <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:CHughes@chelt.ac.uk">CHughes@chelt.ac.uk</A>><BR><B>Dat= e:=20 </B>07 September 1999 18:43<BR><B>Subject:=20 </B>nationals<BR><BR></DIV></FONT> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> <DIV>Ben & Chris</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My comments were meant slightly tongue in cheek to put forward = the=20 point that tournament directors/clubs make far too much profit = out of a=20 tourney .And how the price of entry to tournaments has increased=20 considerably over the past couple of years since the introduction of = the=20 "compulsory tournaments".</DIV> <DIV>I feel personally that if / when the UK Ultimate=20 community decide to form the BUA to take over from = the BUF,=20 then when these compulsory tournaments in the future are put on = then=20 all the profits/less reasonable expenses, should go = back to the=20 BUA instead of the present situation that we have found ourselves in = where=20 certain individuals profit. Before you say BUF TAX let me point out = that I=20 feel this rate needs to be increased.</DIV> <DIV>And as to your comment Ben about Victoria park being free!! You = told me=20 that you didn't have to pay for tour 1 as Leicester council = decided/never=20 asked for the money after the event. And Red never gave anyone = any=20 money back!!! (so did you make £50 for every pitch you didn't = pay for=20 last time).</DIV> <DIV>I'm not bothered as these days you don't get anything for free = and if=20 they do it again this time then you can consider yourselves luckier/ = (Richer) !!!</DIV> <DIV>Also doesn't one of the Red players work for Leicester = council??? Red=20 tape , Lost invoices and all that !!!!</DIV> <DIV>And by the way how many teams did bid for this years = nationals!! apart=20 from "Leicester city council"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Si.b now nursing my hands after having = my=20 knuckles rapped</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>P.S I know how difficult it is to run Tournaments as I have run = many=20 tennis (week long) tournaments that's why I don't want to run an = ultimate=20 one as I know how many moaning players there are in our wonderful=20 sport.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ben I now expect pooper scoupers by every pitch !!=20 </DIV></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BEF968.F99EC700--