From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 2 15:23:46 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05897 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:22:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05883 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:22:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from gateway1.sema.co.uk (gateway1.sema.co.uk [194.216.60.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17734 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:22:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from lonns01.sema.co.uk ([157.203.40.61]) by gateway1.sema.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07683 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:22:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from lones1.sema.co.uk (unverified) by lonns01.sema.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id <B0001737827@lonns01.sema.co.uk> for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 02 Sep 1999 15:21:51 +0100 Message-Id: <B0001737827@lonns01.sema.co.uk> Received: by lones1.sema.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <RVZKX3V4>; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:25:47 +0100 From: MUDGE Damian <Damian.Mudge@sema.co.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Indoors rules - yeah right! Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:18:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Slow day at work so here goes with some dangerous opinions of my own. Darren writes " In my experience, if the disc hits the wall on the pull, it is taken from the point at which it hits the wall and is 'middled'. The same as it would if it went out on the pull outdoors. i therefore do not see why the rule should not apply for turnovers. For example: ..... They should not be penalised yardage for the sloppy offence of the opposition." Fair point, but I tend to prefer restarting play from where the disk lands for a couple of reasons: (a) the defence has less time to set up than if I walk the disc back to it's original point of contact - it's fair to say that a team are at their most vunerable in the moments just after they have turned over (b) yardage isn't really an issue indoors - good teams can score a point with a throw from just about anywhere on the pitch (let's hear it for the hammer). A lot of teams make life difficult for themselves by having all their players(and hence markers assuming the absence of outrageous poaching) ahead of the thrower making it even harder to play in the cramped space (note that's a plug for outdoors there!). With reference to Tim's earlier mail, point taken about 'endzone zone' making life difficult to score in small endzones, but then isn't that the whole point? Why penalise a team who adopts this strategy? Some teams play an indoor zone on the whole pitch - would you penalise them too? An offence should not struggle for too long if they pivot and fake. Pitch size varies according to the sportshall being used and I think this is why up until now the rules have also varied and been governed by the tournament director - lets leave it that way otherwise we might be accused of taking indoors seriously :-) Damo ___________________________________________________________________________ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Sema Group. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the Sema Group Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. ___________________________________________________________________________