From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 27 09:00:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA17304 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:59:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17282 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:59:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05029 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:59:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from eis.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:59:08 +0100 Received: from lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk (lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk [137.222.156.167]) by eis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA09304 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:58:27 +0100 (BST) From: rafael freire <raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk> Reply-To: raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: National teams: a reply to Sammy Message-ID: <SIMEON.9908270824.A@lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:55:24 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Delivery-Receipt-To: rafael freire <raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sammy aired a question about a week ago- whether a strenghthened club team should represent GB as the national team- which received some responses but his point was largely missed. The idea that a strengthened club team should represent GB, as Sam is well aware, has been around for quite a while. It arose largely due to poor performances by national teams. Many (I'll come clean, myself included) thought these poor performances were due to the national teams not having continuity, cohesion and lacking experience of competition at the appropriate level. There is little doubt that the top club teams posses these three components, hence the idea that the best club side (albeit strenghthened) should represent GB was developed (I'll come clean again, it wasn't me) . How this idea could be implemented is, as Ian Stebbings pointed out, in need of further thought. So here's my answer to Sammy: Open: I don't think sending a strengthened club team to worlds would be a good idea at the momment. In my view none of the current top teams have sufficient ability or know-how to form the core of a national team. All of the top three have strengths for building solid teams, but then they also have glaring weaknesses. Choosing one team to form the core would discard the strengths of the other teams, without addressing its particular weaknesses. Had this question been asked in the early to middle days of shotgun (4-5 years ago), the answer would have been very different. On the plus side, I think the open division has skilled players that can do well at international level. Its just a question of deciding who they are and how they should be put together to form a team. Women: As I'm not part of the women's scene, I have no idea whatsoever how they could form a strong national team, though they clearly have talented players. Perhaps some of the players concerned would like to offer their views? Rafi (22)