From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 13:39:54 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08725 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:38:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08701 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:38:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28547 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:38:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from actix.demon.co.uk ([158.152.23.8] helo=cayman.actix1) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10yx9p-0004kz-4J for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:38:38 +0000 Received: by CAYMAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <M4MA6N9J>; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:23:41 +0100 Message-ID: <B07B1BF7F6CED11184E900609739CF891DABFC@CAYMAN> From: Simon Hill <simon.hill@actix.com> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: RULE QUESTION - bored yet? Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:23:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk [Simon Hill] Incidentally - I had an official response about the question of where the disc is played from if the pull rolls out of the back of the endzone. Apparently nobody had thought of that! And so they'll be amending things once they've worked out what to do! Ooops. > The rules (404.06 Out-Of-Bounds) state that "In the event the momentum of > a > player carries him out-of-bounds after making an in-bounds reception" > (which > I presume is the case since Wigsy "slid out of the pitch"),....., "The > player shall resume play at the point he or she went out-of-bounds". > [Simon Hill] Actually Wigs landed OB - ie didn't make an in-bounds reception. > Therefore my understanding would be that putting down a disc that has been > caught would be considered a turnover whether on or off the pitch (other > than obvious stuff like after timeout calls etc). > > And throwing the disc without having a established a legal pivot foot > within > th field of play is always travelling ! > [Simon Hill] Exactly my point. But if he doesn't have possession, how can dropping the disc result in a turnover. It can't. What if he has control, hits the ground, and then drops? Double turnover? No. The rule that allowed the so-called "double-turnover" was removed (as I understand it). It certainly is a grey-area - and the D-player would be well-advised to retain possession, get up onto his feet, and give the disc to his handler who will (by then) be standing 5 yards behind and to the left of him imploring him to throw a dump! :) Si - 22