From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 23 22:12:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA06288 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:11:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA06283 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:11:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.iol.ie (mail1.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.192]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA06273 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:11:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from default (dialup-0229.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.144.229]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA83269 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:11:03 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <00b101bebdbc$47be2ea0$fd90cbc1@default> From: "Eoghan Barry" <barrye@iol.ie> To: "Britdisc" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: emergency wallet-ectomy at Worlds '99 Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:05:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AC_01BEBDC4.7E08D3E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AC_01BEBDC4.7E08D3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We encourage all teams to produce goods that can be sold to help = them raise cash to pay for the trip. However, as with all WFDF events, = teams cannot sell any products except through official WUCC outlets = during the week or at Trading Night on the Tuesday of the tournament. = Teams will have to register all their products with WUCC who will be = responsible for selling all goods for a 25% fee. Please bear this in = mind when you are designing and pricing your goods. =20 =20 Charlie Mead Chair WFDF Ultimate Committee Am I alone in thinking this is all just a bit fucking much? Apparently = it is not enough to charge a player fee that is as much as the fee for an entire team in = the average UK tourney - the WFDF has to have a cut of absolutely everything bought = and sold during the week in St. Andrews. By my calculations the WFDF is = receiving around=20 =A3140,000stg* in team and player fees for WUCC '99. Where is all this = money going? To pay the salaries of the volunteers who will be working at Worlds? To = cover the=20 expense of brand new red cones to mark the pitches? To pay everyone's = green fees for a round at the golf club? How can an ultimate tournament possibly = cost this much=20 money to stage? I find the exhortation to produce your own merchandise to defray the = expense of going to Worlds particularly entertaining. I can't speak for any other teams = but in the case=20 of the Pookas giving a 25% cut to a crew of greasy middlemen would = entirely swallow our mark-up and then some. The net effect of this ruling will be to = inflate the price of merchandise that is going to be sold mainly to other competitors at the = tournament. =20 Who the hell are the WFDF to say I can't sell a t-shirt to a fellow = ultimate player=20 except through their taxed and dutied, officially sanctioned channels? = For whose=20 benefit is this tournament being run?=20 I will say here and now that anyone with enough screws loose to want any = Pookas gear (t-shirts, discs, blotter acid etc.) at Worlds merely has to sidle = up to me,=20 utter the code words 'Worlds is buying Charlie Mead a new house', and = I'll sort them out with the necessary. Dr. Benway Minister For Propaganda Dublin Pookas=20 *for reasons of laziness I assumed that each team brings 14 players = (hardly an over-estimate since you have to roster 12 minimum to enter) and that = there are 96 teams coming. 14 x =A3100 =3D =A31400 (player fees) + =A3100 (team fee) =3D =A31500 x = 96 =3D =A3144,000 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00AC_01BEBDC4.7E08D3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY> <BLOCKQUOTE>We encourage all teams to produce goods that can be sold to = help=20 them raise cash to pay for the trip. However, as with all WFDF = events, teams=20 cannot sell any products except through official WUCC outlets during = the=20 week or at Trading Night on the Tuesday of the tournament. Teams = will have=20 to register all their products with WUCC who will be responsible for = selling=20 all goods for a 25% fee. Please bear this in mind when you are = designing and=20 pricing your goods.<BR> <BR> <BR>Charlie Mead<BR>Chair = WFDF=20 Ultimate Committee</BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Am I alone in thinking this is all = just a bit=20 fucking much? Apparently it is not enough</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>to charge a player fee that is as = much as the=20 fee for an entire team in the average</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>UK tourney - the WFDF has to have a = cut of=20 absolutely everything bought and sold</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>during the week in St. = Andrews. By my=20 calculations the WFDF is receiving around </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>£140,000stg* in team and = player fees for=20 WUCC '99. Where is all this money going?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>To pay the salaries of the volunteers who will be = working at=20 Worlds? To cover the </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>expense of brand new red cones to mark the pitches? = To pay=20 everyone's green fees</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>for a round at the golf club? </FONT><FONT = color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>How can an ultimate tournament possibly cost this much = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>money to stage?</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I find the exhortation to produce your own = merchandise to=20 defray the expense of going</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>to Worlds particularly entertaining. I can't = speak for=20 any other teams but in the case </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>of the Pookas giving a 25% cut to a crew of greasy = middlemen=20 would entirely swallow</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>our mark-up and then some. The net effect of = this ruling=20 will be to inflate the price of</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>merchandise that is going to be sold mainly to other = competitors at the tournament. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Who the hell are the WFDF to say I can't sell a = t-shirt to a=20 fellow ultimate player </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>except through their taxed and dutied, officially = sanctioned=20 channels? For whose </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>benefit </FONT><FONT size=3D2>is this tournament = being run?=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I will say here and now that anyone = with enough=20 screws loose to want any Pookas</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>gear = (t-shirts, discs,=20 blotter acid etc.) at Worlds merely has to sidle up to = me, </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>utter the code words 'Worlds is buying Charlie Mead = a new=20 house', and I'll sort</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>them out with the necessary.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dr. Benway</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Minister For Propaganda</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dublin Pookas </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>*for reasons of laziness I assumed that each team = brings 14=20 players (hardly an</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>over-estimate since you have to roster 12 minimum to = enter)=20 and that there are</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>96 teams coming.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>14 x £100 =3D £1400 (player fees) + = £100 (team=20 fee) =3D £1500 x 96 =3D £144,000</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> </FONT><FONT=20 size=3D2> &nbs= p; =20 </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00AC_01BEBDC4.7E08D3E0--