From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 10 18:26:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA17452 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:25:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17433 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:25:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA18825 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:25:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-058.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.58]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA09842 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:22:14 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <002501beb366$75dce700$3aa492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" <bravil@webleicester.co.uk> To: "BRITDISC" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Ultimate Growth Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:24:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, Tiering the membership fee depending on whether someone receives printed copy is a possibilty. However at this early stage we need to charge everyone a proportion of the production costs however they receive the newsletter (just as we do now through team affiliation fees). If we put the newsletter online and people *don't* pay for it through their fees then we're in trouble. We might then have to broaden the requirement for membership at tournaments (e.g membership required for ALL tournaments not just National events). Otherwise we end up with loads of people getting a 'freebie' and being excluded from just the National events. Because of the need to communicate, I strongly believe that *everyone* should receive the newsletter one way or another. If players are able to opt-out then those that do choose to receive the newsletter might have to pay nearly twice as much - at least at this early stage. I think these teething troubles would only occur in the first couple of years of the association where we would be relying on a significant proportion of players to sign up. Given twice as many members, we *could* afford to have less newsletter subscribers and economies of scale would make it much cheaper anyway. In fact if we doubled the print run the total cost of the newsletter might only increase by say, 20%. Del is correct, once you're printing above a certain number (of order 1000 according to Paul) the printing costs rapidly diminish. Sorry if my maths appears confusing but trust me we do need a good sign up rate to make this thing viable. What I would like people to consider next is the employment of the administrator which is going to be more difficult than hiring a freelance newsletter editor. Does anyone out there have any knowledge of employment law? Would it be sensible/cheapest/necessary to declare ourselves as a company or charity? Is there a legal precedent for sports organisations governing bodies? Or can we just pay someone a cheque and let them worry about the taxman? Discuss... Keep talking - I think we're getting there... Ben PS "Please Miss!, the big boys are fighting in the playground."