From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 10 15:02:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01158 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:00:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01150 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:00:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09342 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:00:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 10 Jun 99 14:57:59 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.40); 10 Jun 99 14:57:33 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" <D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:57:29 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Ultimatum production In-reply-to: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B3ECF2F@baby.kbw.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <15BAFD8F2341@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id PAA01152 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britdisc, Roger challenged anybody to argue sensibly against a two tier fee, depending on whether you wanted a printed copy of Ultimatum to be sent or not. Here are some sensible (but not necessarily compelling) arguments. In terms of publishing costs you would only cut costs proportionately to numbers of copies if you photocopy the newsletter. If it is being printed, which is far better quality, there is a large set up cost and the marginal cost per copy is relatively small. This was my experience when Sam Neilson and I produced Ultimatum 5 years ago. In terms of saving trees, a printed newsletter will be double sided, people printing hard copy on their printer will produce single sided, so it depends how many people choose to print their electronic version. Lastly, extra admin could be created as people opt initially for electronic version then find that they can't read acrobat files so want to change. Some will pester the publisher to produce different formats, acrobat version 1.1.2.b, MS-Word, etc. Like I said these may not be compelling arguments, but I hope they meet Roger's challenge of being sensible. If not I shall have my flame-proof jacket ready to put on! Del Roger Thomson wrote... > People have suggested that this should be done through the web, others have > rightly countered that this would disenfranchise those without web access. > > How about an affiliation fee which reflects the cost of your affiliation? > > One of the main costs highlighted has been posting a newsletter to your > door. We could therefore have a £25 fee for those requesting a newsletter > and £20 (or less depending on the postal and administration costs) for those > accessing the newsletter via a website. People with limited bandwidth could > be emailed an Acrobat pdf file to peruse at their leisure, print off, > photocopy and distribute at will (good promotional tool I would have thought > - they can give copies to friends/relatives, especailly when there's a > photo/mention of them). > > Such a tiered structure would raise initial setup costs slightly as there > would be two types of member, but that would quickly be recouped through > saved printing, postage and stamp-licking costs and therefore merits serious > consideration. If anybody can argue sensibly against such an approach, > please do. > > Best of all, IT SAVES TREES! *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-