From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 1 11:21:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA12297 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:20:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12286 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:20:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18104 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:20:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (SRV1.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.68]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA04448 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:20:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from MECH-SRV1/SpoolDir by srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 1 Jun 99 11:20:05 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by MECH-SRV1 (Mercury 1.31); 1 Jun 99 11:19:39 +0000 From: "Timothy Rogers" <trogers@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk> Organization: Mechanical Engineering To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:19:36 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Ultimate growth X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.53/R1) Message-ID: <73730BB1360@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There's a lot been said about Ultimate's image outside of the sport, and how it affects the sports growth. I think this is secondary to the following points. 1) COST - I think this is the single biggest factor, which affects the growth of ultimate. At the moment, virtually all revenue in the sport comes from the players. Some teams in the past have held tournaments for the purposes of generating revenue for them to play foriegn ultimate. Note that one of the tournaments in question was a regional championship, so it wasn't a matter of choice. Other costs on the ultimate player are applied by the BUF in terms of tournament and player taxes. Charging ultimate players for frankly limited publicity simply doesn't make sense. Incidently, what exactly is BUF money spent on? I'm not being cynical; I just don't know. 2) Loss of players - Many players leave the sport after university. I think that one of the biggest reasons people don't continue is that they don't have a team to play for. This is an area, which can easily be addressed. Every year, maybe it would be worth setting up a roster of all graduates around the country, to make it easier for them to set up teams. It is often the case that they move to towns which has no ultimate. 3) Expanding the growth areas I don't mean to dwell on university ultimate, but it is the main growth area. Starting teams in more universities. It usually starts by someone who has played before, moving to a particular university. This happened at Aberdeen (Petroleum) last year; there now doing really well and last time we played them they had 15 or so players come to Edinburgh. In a few years maybe they'll grow to a club of 40 or 50. Supporting these new teams is a priority, and this only happens by invitations and by keeping tournament costs low!!! Ok, I've talked for far too long, but my personal opinion is ultimate needs to concentrate on serving the people who play. A good steady growth of people who would otherwise be attracted to the sport (this doesn't mean we should make it cliquey), is much better than a media driven boom which would be followed by an equally sharp decline. Finally, just to say that these are just my personal views. I speak for nobody else. Tim Ro-Sham-Bo S.O.U.P