From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 28 10:31:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA08909 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:30:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08897 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:30:04 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00175 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:30:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01) with ESMTP; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:29:58 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <LXXDRNCA>; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:29:56 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FF5A@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Drugs in Ultimate Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:29:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Probably my final comments on the matter: Why are we even having this discussion? Am I the only one who thinks the hypothesis is premature? Maybe my last message was misunderstood, more likely ignored, but I will persist with my point - teams who currently pursue sponsorship are no more likely to be held back by a perceived drug culture than Man UTD were (hypothetically) by the Flaming Arseholes. We are limited only by our size and profile. Surely the discussion should be how can we get to the luxurious position where a discussion on the image of Ultimate is actually required? It will be years, not months, before we are (potentially) in that position, by which time they may even have decriminalised Cannabis, rendering this debate irrelevant. At this stage in the growth of Ultimate steps to make it more publicly acceptable are, in my opinion, going to have a reverse effect - as many people have pointed out before me, disc sports are the "alternative", and are attractive to potential players because, not despite, of that. Grow from love, man..... Mark