From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 28 09:56:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00121 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:54:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00098 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:54:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from hgty.capgemini.co.uk (hgty.capgemini.co.uk [194.42.240.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27602 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:54:37 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199905280844.JAA24236@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Received: forwarded by SMTP 3.0.11. From: "Thornton, Paul R" <Paul.Thornton@capgemini.co.uk> To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Drugs again, Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:54:10 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, Without wanting to sound like the counsellor from South Park ('drugs are baaaad, okaaay!'), I'd like to make a slightly different point about drugs and Ultimate. Okay, many people who play Ultimate have a relaxed view about drugs, and quite a lot of people who don't also have a relaxed view. Unfortunately, almost all of the people who control the facilities we need to play on (i.e. decent sports grounds) have very fixed views on drugs (at least publicly). The point I am trying to make is that if we want to use decent venues then we can't afford a negative image. The people who run those venues will refuse to associate themselves with that negative image. There are other people who can better comment on this. However, the Ross tournament can be taken as an example. It is still a great tournie, but, unless old age is dimming my memory, it used to be held at a nicer venue until an unfortunate drug related incident. As for names, I don't think 'Headrush' is too offensive (especially when its Ultimate context is explained). 'UTI' will only offend those people looking to be offended. I think 'Coventry Child Abuse' is probably pushing it though .... Paul Red