From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 15:32:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23413 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:30:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23363 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:30:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07138 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:30:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id <B0000456285@mailgw.chelt.ac.uk>; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:26:03 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <LF9QG7LM>; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:29:38 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED41B@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" <CHughes@chelt.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk'" <M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Drug Influenced Ultimate Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:29:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Expanding the issue here to cover a larger are still raises the point - as Ultimate players something is going to be sacrificed to promote the game further for public awareness. This may be drug references (and use) to promote a squeaky clean image (just like rugby!). We may have to change the game, ie referees; local leagues instead of tournaments. Separate divisions at events. The ethos and social aspect of the game may change as sponsorship forces players to change their behavior on and off pitch, the player base means that you won't be playing and seeing your friends from other teams. Players may be forced to play for their closest teams etc. The possible outcomes from pushing the promotion of the sport may have big beneficial changes to the sport and individuals - but some aspects will also suffer; how much are people prepared to give up. Or are you happy in the knowledge that every one new who you speak to thinks the only reason you were able to represent your country is because you are the only one who plays that silly little sport, and you just weren't good enough to compete at rugby/football/hockey/netball* (*insert sport of their choice here) Chris Hughes (my opinions only) (not DoC) > ---------- > From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk[SMTP:M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk] > Sent: 26 May 1999 15:09 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: re: Drug Influenced Ultimate > > Briefly, it's a little short-sighted to think that team names stand in the > way of Ultimate sponsorship. IMHO it's more likely to be something to do > with the actice player base of 2000 (and that's only the "official" > figure) > the state of public ignorance, media dissinterest (or at best, > ambivalnce). > Marketable Ultimate is a long way off and yes, making a token sacrifice of > individual teams names is draconian. Where do you stop? Anybody dislike > Red's communist allusions? And besides, if you want to address "drugs" in > sport, teams names are the least of your worries. Open up that particular > can of worms at your perril. > > Mark > Hyperextension-Hyperflexion Injury >